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Forum: Deep Waters 03-06-2017, 06:57 AM
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Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

You didn't answer my question. You have already stated that upon repentance and baptism, enough of the Spirit is present to cause a change in a persons life (fruit of the Spirit). You then went on...
Forum: Deep Waters 03-05-2017, 08:02 AM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

Wow, I don't think that you know me. This is a forum where people discuss views and they sometimes differ. If you have a problem discussing without being offended then maybe you should opt out.
Forum: Deep Waters 03-01-2017, 11:06 AM
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Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

Have you ever seen someone receive the full measure with any other gift other than tongues and if so what was the sign you have personally witnessed?
Forum: Deep Waters 02-23-2017, 08:19 AM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

I believe the reason the Bible uses the language of being currently saved, is because of the immediate condition of our souls when we come to the Lord. When someone is truly saved as we term it,...
Forum: Deep Waters 02-22-2017, 04:41 PM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

Does Acts 2:38 say you "can" receive the gift of the Holy Ghost or does it say you "shall" be filled with the gift of the Holy Ghost? Your above post says "can".

I guess you are clear enough to...
Forum: Deep Waters 02-21-2017, 05:00 PM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

As far as being "saved", so long as we stay in covenant with God we are in a safe standing with Him. We are not saved until the day of our redemption. I think we may be in agreement, except that I...
Forum: Deep Waters 02-21-2017, 04:53 PM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

I agree with you in parts of this. I like to use the term covenant. When we repent and are baptized we enter covenant with God and in return He(God) seals us by his Spirit until the day of our...
Forum: Deep Waters 02-21-2017, 09:49 AM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

You said that they should do exactly as the apostles did. After they had baptized them in Jesus name they laid hands on them to be filled with the Holy Ghost. If they already had the Holy Ghost at...
Forum: Deep Waters 02-21-2017, 09:29 AM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

"to save" and "saved" are not the same. KJV translation's use of "saved" is clearly understood to be where someone is currently standing with God. Many English translations use the term being saved...
Forum: Deep Waters 02-21-2017, 09:02 AM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

Do you think that those who have believed on Jesus Christ, but have not been baptized in Jesus name are saved?
Forum: Deep Waters 02-18-2017, 04:18 PM
Replies: 328
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Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

Yes I agree. And does not this scripture agree as well, that upon believing, something miraculous happens:

John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall...
Forum: Deep Waters 02-18-2017, 05:47 AM
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Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

Salvation occurs at the hearing of well done thou good and faithful servant. If you will note all the the shall's in the scriptures that you have posted. Repentance is a heart thing and not just a...
Forum: Deep Waters 02-17-2017, 06:02 AM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

The gift of the Holy Ghost will come when one repents and is baptized in Jesus name. The Holy Ghost is not a commandment, but instead the Holy Ghost itself is a gift we shall receive once we have...
Forum: Deep Waters 02-14-2017, 07:55 AM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

I am not sure what you meant by the underlined sentence.
Forum: Deep Waters 02-14-2017, 07:36 AM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

Your case that "the only biblical evidence that anyone has for the baptism of the Holy Ghost is tongues" does not hold up. See these scriptures:

Acts 13:52 And the disciples were filled with...
Forum: Deep Waters 02-13-2017, 09:47 AM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

OR even, tongues was a form of prophecy.



When God speaks through men could that not be prophecy as well?

When we speak in tongues we pray to God without understanding. Our spirit is edified...
Forum: Deep Waters 02-13-2017, 08:12 AM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

Was there no spirit in their hearts while they tarried for 120 days, praying? Why would they even be there if the spirit of the Lord was not there convicting them, and causing them to seek Him? Why...
Forum: Deep Waters 02-12-2017, 08:47 AM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

KBTW, If the Holy Ghost is given at repentance and water baptism how do you explain this?
Forum: Deep Waters 02-10-2017, 07:54 AM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

In what way, what have I said that would lead you to think that one can be saved without faith?



What is really going on is that your "sacred cow" doctrine of believing that if you don't...
Forum: Deep Waters 02-08-2017, 07:52 PM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

I think this was a good answer.
Forum: Deep Waters 02-07-2017, 06:44 AM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

Where does this say anything about a measure of God's Spirit is given at repentance. Someone being drawn by the Spirit of God and someone being baptized with the Holy Ghost are not the same thing. A...
Forum: Deep Waters 02-06-2017, 06:15 PM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

Scripture??? Where in the scripture does it say a measure of the Spirit is given at repentance and baptism? How do people that don't even profess to be a Christian live good lives? Repentance means...
Forum: Deep Waters 02-05-2017, 04:09 PM
Replies: 328
Views: 39,122
Posted By good samaritan
Re: Receiving The Holy Spirit & Speaking In Tongue

Are you saying that people can be partially filled with the Holy Ghost?

I don't tell people they have the Holy Ghost nor do I tell them they do not. I think the thing to do is to ask someone how...
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