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Forum: Deep Waters 10-30-2013, 12:36 PM
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Posted By Baron1710
Re: In "Our" image

So did the angels or the animals make man?
Forum: Political Talk 10-30-2013, 12:10 PM
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Posted By Baron1710
Re: Libertarian Jesus

Wrong.

Jesus lived under Roman rule not the theocracy of the OT.
Forum: The Newsroom 10-29-2013, 03:18 PM
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Views: 2,107
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Things Obama Didn't Know About

Has the news reported that he is the President?

If not he may not know.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-18-2013, 10:43 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

In the very statement you quote he denies the Deity of Christ, and furthermore his statement as to those who pervert Christianity was not just the Anglican church...


"Christianity...(has become)...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-18-2013, 10:32 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

You are right, "chant" may be a bad term, "incantation" may be a better choice.

You fail to understand what it means to do something "In the name of."
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-18-2013, 10:01 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

It doesn't rule out a response to the Gospel, or the need for the Spirit. It just rules out making a religious chant over the individual a part of salvation. Nor does it require an emotional...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-18-2013, 09:43 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

You certainly have some strange views of the finished work of the cross.

And Yes I absolutely subscribe to the finished work of the cross as far superior to anything else you or anyone else has to...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-18-2013, 09:39 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

You are delusional. Jefferson's own words establish his position. Read the words of Abigail Adams when she heard he would be President. She all but referred to him as an atheist. This was not an...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-18-2013, 08:19 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

Are you saying Jefferson wasn't a Deist?
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-18-2013, 08:06 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

No one is asking you to agree with him, but so much of what is there is a matter of historical record, but you are so blind you can't get past the title.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-18-2013, 08:03 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

Water/Spirit preachers ignore the cross, and the "easy believeism" demonstrated there by Jesus. You must Repent, You must be baptized, You must speak in tongues. Salvation is all about what YOU do,...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-18-2013, 07:10 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

Right. no qualifications as a historian at all.

Dr Thomas A Fudge undertook his research leading to a PhD in medieval history under the direction of R.W. (Bob) Scribner at Cambridge where he wrote...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-18-2013, 05:52 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

You didn't read what he write did you.

You guys are amazing at surmising when the facts are right there for you to read.

I did consider other titles for the book and as the introduction to the...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-17-2013, 10:07 PM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

"I am probably not a true believer in the "water/Spirit doctrine" as it is taught in the UPCI in that I do not believe that the reference to "water" in John 3:5 is speaking of water baptism."

Read...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-17-2013, 08:46 PM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

No. He only puts that stigma on the water and spirit crowd.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-17-2013, 07:25 PM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

I will let Mr. Fudge speak for himself about the title of the book. This is an excerpt of an email he sent me.

"Three days ago I was with Loren Yadon and he mentioned your name. I can well imagine...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-17-2013, 05:43 PM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

Have you read the book?
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-17-2013, 05:26 PM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

No misrepresentation. The point of the title wasn't that no UPC preacher preaches about the cross, but that those that hold the water/spirit doctrine have no need for a cross.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-17-2013, 04:46 PM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

No agenda. Just truth. Seems like Jack Nicholson needs to make an appearance.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-17-2013, 02:47 PM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

Ferd,

I just fundamentally disagree that we should bury the past. We should forgive an move on as individuals but that doesn't mean we shouldn't hold the organizations feet to the fire. They say...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-17-2013, 12:59 PM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

Well, I do know why it was brought up. Several of us feel this is a message that is a historical marker in the life of an organization. The message and the events surrounding it set the trajectory of...
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-17-2013, 11:58 AM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

How is it being used to destroy?

Calling attention to a sermon is trying to destroy?
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-16-2013, 10:47 PM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

And there it is...we are all just bitter.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-16-2013, 03:03 PM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

Ferd,

No comments about Democrats, because your not one. No comments about Catholics because your not one. No critique of any group you are not a member of.
Forum: Fellowship Hall 09-16-2013, 01:00 PM
Replies: 238
Views: 23,030
Posted By Baron1710
Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

Yes, he does pastor a church in Idaho.

To say his ministry wasn't destroyed ignores what happened. He was left without a job, his wife was left without a job. There was a concerted effort to close...
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