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Originally Posted by Amanah
are you saying that you believe in baptism in Jesus Name and speaking in tongues, but believe salvation is at repentance?
if that were true, then who else would be included in the body? everyone who has repented? Catholics, Mormons, Protestants of all sorts, Baptists, lots of people have repented, AoG, Jehovah Witnesses, etc.?
if this were true, the what is the point of saying, repent, be baptized and receive the HG?
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Its the topic of many threads on here. But if you come from the UPCI your history was doctored to be presented as something other than what it is. Two groups merged together the PCI (saved at repentance) and the PAJC (saved 3 steps ala UPCI today).
In the beginning it was in the original manual to not disagree (the statement was later modified). and we have posted proof from the first Pentecostal Herald on here that they took articles from both positions. Later the PAJC (which was larger) essentially engaged in a 50+ year of attrittion to get rid of saved at repentance ministers helped by several generations of ABI college students who took over the older PCI churches. Those few left over were finally wiped out pretty much by the 1992 affirmation statement.
Thomas Fudge is a professor of history who did a deep project on it, found alot of original documents in the UPCI historical library in St. Louis and was banned. He put out a letter to all the UPCI ministers to share any older documents they had, and using the treasure trove he found he wrote Christianity without the Cross which pretty much buries any disputing about the real history with a TON of foot notes.
Fudges book has caused massive debate in the ministerial circles that still hasn't stopped. Ask any UPCI minister if he has read it and you will get the gamut from instant anger to a sad insecure look... and of course those enlightened souls who say they will never read that garbage from a backslider anyhow.
http://www.amazon.com/Christianity-w...6356739&sr=8-1