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Old 04-13-2012, 08:34 AM
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Re: How would you respond to these "false" prophec

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The title of one fairly recent anti-Mormon book is , God's Word, Final, Infallible and Forever: Compelling Evidence for the Bible's Inspiration and Preservation (McElveen, 1985). Author Floyd McElveen argues that the Bible is "without error" (ibid., 7) and that a "prophet was considered false if his prophecies were not 100 percent accurate at all times.... One false prophecy is all it takes to reveal a false prophet" (ibid., 31).

The Bible never claims that it is inerrant. This belief is a fabrication by those who have closed the doors of revelation. If no more revelation is to be received then the Bible must be inerrant because the Bible and tradition would be the only source of authority.

Is the Bible inerrant? Infallible? 2 Chronicles 2:2 says that it took 153,600 men to build Solomon's Temple. 1 Kings 5:13 says that the labor force was only 30,000 men working in three shifts of 10,000 each. According to the Bible, the earth is flat (see Isaiah 11:12, Jeremiah 49:32, Revelation 7:1, Deuteronomy 33:17; Job 28:24, etc.). Moses claimed that the hare "cheweth the cud" (Lev. 11:6)-- they don't. How many angels were at Christ's tomb (see Matt. 28:2, Mark 16:5, Luke 24:4, and John 10:12)? Matthew wrote that the title on the cross above Jesus read: "This is Jesus the King of the Jews" (Matt. 27:37), while Mark claimed that the title simply read: "The King of the Jews" (Mark 15:26). Luke, however, recorded that the title read: "This is the King of the Jews" (Luke 23:38), and John claimed that the title read: "Jesus of Nazareth the King of the Jews" (John 19:19).

What about prophetic infallibility? Does one false prophetic statement reveal a false prophet? Is Moses a false prophet because the "everlasting" covenant of circumcision (Gen. 17:1-14) was done away with in New Testament times. The prophet Jeremiah was so upset about his failed prophecies that he called God a liar (Jer. 15:18). Jeremiah predicted that King Zedekiah would "die in peace: and with the burning of ...odours" (Jer. 34:5). Instead, however, Zedekiah's children were slaughtered, his eyes were put out, and he died in prison. Jonah was commanded twice to go cry repentance to the people of Nineveh. Jonah then prophesied that the city would be overthrown in forty days (Jonah 3:4). The people of Nineveh repented, however, and God spared them. Jonah was angry with God that his prophecy and not been fulfilled, and the Lord needed to rebuke Jonah for his anger.

The list of Bible errors & contradictions as well as incorrect prophetic biblical utterances can be multiplied, but I believe the above examples demonstrate that the Bible is not inerrant, nor infallible, and neither are God's prophets.

Michael R. Ash

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http://www.mormonfortress.com/infallible.html

http://www.fairlds.org/authors/tvedt...and-prophecy-2
Maybe these "examples" prove that man's actions effect the eventual outcome.
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