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Originally Posted by acerrak
all sin is willfull sin.
everyone goes through seasons, just like spring and summer you blossom and bloom and your vibrant.
then you have fall and winter you lose your leaves and the weather changes to cold, and there is very little spiritual growth.
No one can tell you where the line is. There is no difference in willfull sinning and falling.
the church has tried to make it sound like its a little mistake or something, 'they preach ah sometimes i mess up.... what he was saying is some times i sin.
there is a danger of preaching to much armeniansm or hyper arminianism, people will be in and out of salvation on a daily bases so much that they empower sin greater than grace God bestows on them.
The way I look at. Jesus said "its finished" That means 2000 years ago, all of my past present and future sins was atoned for. My debt was paid before i was even born.
Yet like Paul i struggle in the flesh, My Spirit wants to do stuff for God but i just dont do it. I feel guilty and regret over it. That is conviction that lets you know God is with you.
Jesus was nailed to you.He was crucifed to you. His hand nailed to your hand. He will never leave you nor forsake you. As long as you want to be saved He will Keep you saved. Even if you feel like slipping back into your old habbits. God will chastize you and reprove you. Your his Child. You recieved the Spirit of adoption.
The only way i believe you can get out of this relationship is to take the nails out yourself. and still then you will be haunted by the Holy ghost.
Grace is a wonderful thing. Many people dont realize the power of Grace. Cause all we are is sinners covered by grace. No one lives a perfect sinless life in the flesh (save Christ) but we are perfected in Christ, we are declared rightous through Christ
My question is how many times can a person be born again? How many times are saved then unsaved?
To be honest Your covered by Grace in the winter months just as you are in the summer months, but people say thats easy peasy grace. No, no its not. there is nothing easy about the chastizment that is comming from God to corret you.
That is what sonship is, your now a son or daughter of God. You didnt earn salvation by merit and your cant do enough merits to keep your self saved.
If Grace was sufficient to get rid of your past guilt, why do some people believe its not strong enough for your present. If grace is Good for the past and present then we can depend on grace for our future.
Today right now, i am in a luke warm state, I hate it, i do I have already started reaching out for people to pray. last time i went through a luke warm state God spit me out. Did i lose my salvation . No but it caused me to hit a place where i wanted to get back into the Love of God and Doing His will and purpose in my life.
I expect it again maybe different than last time but its a correcting love from God. Cause i to preach. i feel so alive when i preach. The Joy that i have when i give a message that God gives to me is worth more than Gold. But after i preach i get so beat up spiritually i feel worthless. Last time i preached was very hard. I am still having a hard time recovering from it.
You will meet spiritual oposition and you will hit some low points in your life field with depression, you will hit points in your life when you feel like God doesnt care, or you question if he is listening. You may even rebel against Him and kick against the Goads for a short time, But you are saved, sanctified and filled with the Holy ghost. You are a child of God. and he will bring His Children back into line of His good and pleasing will.
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Very helpful post. I agree, when you preach, it's like the heat gets turned up 50 times! One time I preached at a church that had recently been through an incredibly hard storm, the pastor lost 3/4 of his congregation to his son in law who started preaching something different than the apostolic message and he brought everyone with him. I preached a message that God can still use this church and how they are right when they stand up for what's right even if everyone isn't standing with them, and then I didn't know all they had been through until after I preached there.
But on the 3 hour ride back to IBC, I feel like I spiritually just got hit by a truck. I wanted to backslide, I wanted to do anything but go back to church that night. It was crazy. But God blessed me and I made it through! Don't stop preaching His Word, because He always saves you and won't let you go.