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Originally Posted by Sam
In Revelation 2:1-7 Jesus spoke to the church in Ephesus and told them to repent.
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To the Church in Ephesus
1 “To the angel[a] of the church in Ephesus write:
These are the words of him who holds the seven stars in his right hand and walks among the seven golden lampstands. 2 I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false. 3 You have persevered and have endured hardships for my name, and have not grown weary.
4 Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken the love you had at first. 5 Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place. 6 But you have this in your favor: You hate the practices of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
7 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.
first i dont believe this is speaking of salvation, cause if it is then it will contridict many scriptures about grace and works.
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2 I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance.
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so what was the first love they forsook,obvious the works they do is good according to this verse, who are the nicolations.
what are they told to repent of... do yoiu have a idea? Do you treat your church as ephesus even though this letter was specifically directed at them?
we cant just say repent repent sam, there is no edification in that, what are we telling them to change from. Are we going to constantly beat the body of belivers and keep yelling at them to turn from their wicked ways? How then can you move on to perfection in Christ according to hebrews