[samuelofisrael]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Ah; talk about confusing the issue...anyway, I don't disagree with any of that, SOI, but I am curious how that refutes "I never knew you," (from God, who made {you}).

I fail to understand how that statement impacts Predestination of the elect unless you are citing "double predestination."

May I assist you in that particular subject.

Ro 9:11-16

11(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth,

12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.

13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

And,

Ro 8:29-31

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

Shalom