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Old 11-19-2012, 08:37 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

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Originally Posted by Peacemaker View Post
CC1 that's the meat of where we disagree. Viewing something you disagree with as a closed culture is an opinion that anyone believing in a similar fashion will hold. I contest the view that because we have views that are different from yours does not make us a closed culture. Clearly even in a supposedly open culture like Swaggarts AG church, there were many blind loyalists. Having a belief in our type of standards does not mean that we are a closed culture or more likely to be blindly loyal. Those are simply unrelated. What SHOULD be the case is that neither of us or "our groups" would be willing to follow failed leadership, because of a deep desire for righteousness in our spirits.
I find it hard to believe that anybody would argue that old time Pentecost / UPC is not a closed religious culture. The emphasis is on their dinstinctives both doctrinal and dress code. They do not consider those who believe differently to be Christian brothers or sisters and most do not even think they can learn anything from reading a book or hearing a sermon from someone outside of their specific belief system. If that is not a closed culture I don't know what is.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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