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Old 03-11-2013, 07:47 AM
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Re: Christians and how they make everything...

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Originally Posted by Aquila View Post
I understand what you're saying. I've seen the same kinds of things. I think that for many, if not most, it's just trying to be positive.

However, I think it's grounded in one's worldview. Some believe that only God is the author of life and that life is sacred. They'd ask... does God make mistakes? If not, the child is God's will. If so, do we label the child a "mistake" for the rest of their lives???
That would get into the view God control everything. God is the author of life. He set the natural laws in place. However our use of those laws are not directly his will. Saying God's authored her choosing to have sex outside of marriage is heretical. God using her sin is another thing completely. Her continuing in sin and not getting married because we "just don't get along" is contradictive statements to that GOd put them togethor yet never married for the longest time and in the end did not. Simple point is she and him where all over the place and calling their sin GOD working in mysterious ways and calling it a blessing. Then people calling the child a direct blessing of God when in the end it was a result of sinful acts. Sure a child can be a blessing later but to call the conception and it a direct BLESSING AUTHORED by God is pitiful.

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It may also depend on how one views sin and God's plan. For many, sin is a deed done and any "law violating" deed is sin. For others, sin is a principle in our flesh under which we are all equally condemned and so they judge no one. They see sin as inevitable and believe that one reaps what they sow in this life... and that God uses "sin" in His divine plan, though it is something that rends His heart.
While yes God can USE the "result" of sin for his will. His will was not authored in bringing about that sin or situation. This is where the line is constantly crossed and the sin minimized among Christians.

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For example, these individuals might point out that David committed adultery with Bathsheba. I believe she was like, David's eighth wife or something. Anyway, her name translates, "daughter of the oath", or... "daughter of promise". They see Bathsheba as David's "promised wife" and that had David been patient... he most likely would have been able to have her lawfully in God's plan. But David got ahead of God... and so paid the price... the life of his first born and continual family problems. Yet... God didn't write David off. Instead... God turned it around and blessed David with Solomon, the wisest king Israel ever had. Also, God blessed Israel through Bathsheba... she saved the entire nation twice. Here, in the story of David, the "other woman" that David committed adultery with... became one of Israel's greatest queens.

God works in mysterious ways. Sometimes... it might be better to lift up God in a situation, trust His plan, and see what He does with a situation in the long term.

See above. God using the result of failure and him bringing about or authoring it is the issue. You have people talking about all the time being closer to God and partying it up on the weekend and saying insane stuff on FB. No different on how people do things when it comes to emotional issues. It seems if they use the word GOD and WILL or PLAN enough in their posts it makes the whole situation ok and people just ignore the rest of it. As I said unjust postivity(judgment) is just as much a sin as negative judgment.

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It also may depend on one's view of civil marriage. People are increasingly getting leary of civil marriages (government marriages). More and more couples are choosing private relationships because the institution of marriage today has become such a high stakes gamble... not to mention... the state is increasingly modifying it to accomodate immorality and "no fault" divorce. So, some seriously consider the ol' "married in the eyes of God" thing. Here's a thread where this is being discussed...

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=42501[/QUOTE]

I don't believe in government marriage. Also this person has no concept of those type issues and was not what was going on.
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