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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I don't see where you are getting Jacob bullied God.
BTW I think you are missing the point in that verse. Jacob is making a vow to God before Jacob really knew God. In essence he was akin to today's unbeliever saying "If you really are God and you want me to follow you, please help me with this situation and if you do I will follow you and devote myself to you"
Jacob was not making a precondition to tithing. He was Letting Yhwh know that if he reveals Himself to Jacob then Jacob will become a follower and as part of being a follower, will give a 10th of what is his to Yhwh
The part you did not bold is pertinent "Then the LORD will be my God"
As part of that package, the LORD being Jacob's God, Jacob promises to build a house to God and give a 10th of what is his to God
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Praxeas,
In regard to your comments above regarding Jacob, you said:
"Jacob is making a vow to God before Jacob really knew God. In essence he was akin to today's unbeliever saying "If you really are God and you want me to follow you, please help me with this situation and if you do I will follow you and devote myself to you"
"Jacob was not making a precondition to tithing. He was Letting Yhwh know that if he reveals Himself to Jacob then Jacob will become a follower and as part of being a follower, will give a 10th of what is his to Yhwh"
My response is, if tithing was Pre-Mosaic, Abraham would have stressed on the importance of tithing, yes? We know from scripture that Jacob was Isaac’s father, thus, Jacob was Abraham’s grandson.
If tithing was Pre-Mosaic, not only would Abraham have taught his children to tithe, but also Jacob would have known tithing was mandatory, and would never have tried to “make a deal” with god! In
Genesis 28:20-22, in summarizing the scriptures, Jacob pretty much states, God, take care of me and then only will I give you ten percent. Is this what Abraham and Issac taught Jacob?
If tithing was Pre-Mosaic, Abraham's teaching was have made its way to Jacob, and Jacob wouldn't have given god terms and conditions, in order for God to receive Jacob's "ten percent."
Regards,
Jacob's Ladder