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You probably had a lot of good points to be made I am sure those here would agree, but when they hit this part they are probably scratching their heads and writing you off as just ranting. The crack about colored people just makes this "point" all the more absurd. All races are welcome and ALL ages are welcome
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Decades ago, a lot of "churches" segregated by race. The "coloured folks" as they called them had to sit in a separate section, usually a balcony or some such thing. My point was, folks are mor esegregated now in many churches than what was going on 50-100 years ago. Obviously, you completely missed that point.
Oh, and I have long ago accepted that 90% of the posters here consider me to be ranting every time I hit "submit post".
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For starters, what is "real church"? Are you saying that youth and kids can't possibly have "real church" unless they are surrounded by adults? Most churches I know of have services where it is specialized for kids and youth AND where ALL the members, adults and kids, are together in "real church"
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"Real church" is the "big people's service". The pesky childen must be whisked outof sight and out of mind so as not to interfere with "real church" (ie, adult church), contrary to Jesus' explicit instructions.
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The growing number of famlies? Who did the poll and where can I find the results? Why don't those families just ignore the programs and go to the all included services most churches have?
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You base everything you know on polls? I meet people all the time who quit going to church specifically because they feel the church divides their family, because they object to the family segregation, the pressure to turn their kids loose to the "youth program" and the "youth camp" and yada yada yada.
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Really? You know early Pentecostal believers very often had services where women were on one side and men on the other? Billy Sunday started the Sunday School paradigm a long time ago...are you saying he was influenced by an ungodly anti-family culture that views each other as strange and alien?
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I could care less what Billy Sunday did or did not do, and I could care less what "early Pentecostal believers" did or did not do. The Bible does not instruct the church to segregate families as is so common nowadays. Modern family segregation in the church is counterproductive, encourages a worldly paradigm regarding the family, and fails to counteract the destructive influences of the world that divide and destroy families. The modern church PARADIGM is not designed to build strong, godly families for the Lord, in spite of advertising to the contrary.
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The rest of what you posted I either agreed, did not understand your point or did not understand why you made it an issue of THE modern Church and not rather an issue of many modern churches. Not all churches are preaching a prosperity gospel
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Did you use a number two pencil to fill in the bubbles? lol
"THE modern church" is the whole of Christendom with the Oneness Pentecostal movement largely trailing along blindly. I specifically stated there ARE good churches doing right, and good believers doing right.
But they are a remnant in the MODERN church culture, unfortunately.