Originally Posted by Felicity

Didn't take the time to read Eliseus's whole post but I think I got the gist of it. The truth is the church isn't much different than the world really. That has to definitely be part of the problem.

Like I've said God doesn't depend on the Church to reach the world. He often reaches outside the established church in wide sweeping moves to reach those who will say "yes" to the message of salvation.