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Old 09-18-2013, 11:52 AM
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Re: Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On View Post
I think that "and" can also be defined as "also". In context it could also mean "even".

However, when I review everything that Jesus spoke to Nicodemus, I see him talking about being "saved", i.e., "that the world through him might be saved" (John 3:17). And I remember Jesus' words in Mark 16:16 "He that believes and is baptized shall be saved."

So, I appreciate what you've written and I'll think about it some more.
Yes, he who believes and is baptized shall (future event) be saved, but saved by what? Paul tels us in Titus 3:5-6....

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He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,

6 whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior,
So believing and baptism are steps that take us towards the thing that saves us, namely the indwelling Spirit of God.
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