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Old 11-12-2013, 07:00 PM
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Re: We are officially a family without a church

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Originally Posted by ILG View Post
You were without a pastor for a little while when you left the UPC weren't you?
No. We left the UPC because we moved to another state and started attending a church that had left the UPC about 5 years before.

Besides I have never said someone can't go for a short time without being plugged into a church while they check out the choices available.

What I have said is that if someone just leaves the UPC or any church for that matter and removes themselves from what the bible clearly tells us is there for the development of our christian walk (pastors, teachers, etc as mentioned before) then they are wrong.

My observation is that once people stop going to church if they do it very long they learn to love sleeping in on Sunday's and just making it another day off.

I have also observed that when people try to pastor themselves they tend to lose sight of the fact that they are depriving themselves of the benefits of teaching that challenges your thinking and builds up your walk with God by a person who is invested in their walk with God and cares for them. Again, just read Ephesians.

The other thing I have observed is people who quit going to church because they just can't find one that teaches and preaches everything EXACTLY as they believe so they suddenly become proponents of "home church" and either have church with just family or recruit a few more malcontents or followers so they don't ever have to hear something they don't like or agree with. There may be some rationales for home church (when the church is under persecution and can't meet corporately, etc) but my belief is t hat 90% of the time it is just an excuse for stubborn people who must have everything their way.
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"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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