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Originally Posted by n david
Your Pastor was good with standards until "well educated people" show up, then changes it because he suddenly had a revelation that it's not the truth? Ok.
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I think you're missing the point in here. First off you didn't highlight the "honest" part...lol
The point is that these new folks did not have a background in holiness semantics per se. So, the Pastor had to look for BIBLICAL SUPPORT for whatever standards he had preaching.
I don't know how many holiness churches you've been a part of, but when it comes to standards, it's mostly just said from the pulpit without any or much scriptural backing. It ends up being the Pastor said it and that's it.
For people who grew up in a holiness setting where you can't question a Pastor's teaching, these standards are easily believed as truth. (And breaking them means going to hell.)
However, if you're gonna preach these standards to new people who really want to believe the BIBLE ONLY, then you'd have to show them from the BIBLE scriptural support for these standards...and that's where the Pastor realized those supposed standards were not in the bible all along.
Hence, the statement:
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Originally Posted by Roxanne Murphy
"In this He realized that he would be presenting these teachings to honest, well educated people who were seeing the Word of God through eyes and hearts not previously influenced by the 'holiness' culture that our church had, compliments of the denomination to which we belonged
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Originally Posted by n david
1) How long has your Pastor been a Pastor? 2) It took these "well educated people" to finally get your Pastor to study this himself and find out he didn't believe what he'd been preaching for however long he's been preaching?!?
Spare the drama.
It'll play well here on AFF and you'll get a bunch of positive, affirming posts congratulating your newfound beliefs - as evidenced by the posts already.
What would have happened if those "well educated people" hadn't shown up and your church was comprised of just a bunch of ignert folk!? Good thing those degrees helped influence your Pastor! Just imagine what he can change if there's money with those "well educated people."
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You're totally missing the context of this post big time. This church according to the poster had not been much active in evangelizing those outside their church. In an effort to do using honest biblical approach, the scale began to fall off the pastor's eyes.
Maybe you can blame the Pastor for preaching the standards all these years without him looking for scriptural support, but at least give him credit for being honest after finding out and not just signing the affirmation docs as some do even though they do not believe it's biblical.