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Re: Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore
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Originally Posted by houstonupci
As a member of Life Church (Tabernacle), there are a few things I would like to add to this thread.
1) Someone posted early in the thread about HH "revealing" a strained relationship between elder JK and current pastor JK. A few months prior to elder JK passing away, he got up in front of the entire church and stated for the record that he stood behind his son and Life Church. I have personally seen the interactions between elder JK and his three children, and I can say that there was nothing "strained" about their relationship.
2) As for Life Tabernacle and missions. To my knowledge, the church no longer gives to missions through the UPCI organization, but the church still supports missions in a big way. In fact, missionary Tony Miller from Lithuania is speaking THIS SUNDAY. Aside from giving to missionaries, the church recently built an orphanage in the Phillipines and currently houses almost 40 children. If that isn't missions, I don't know what is.
3) There have been a LOT of rumors floating around about Life Church over the past few years, and I would like to address them. JK still teaches baptism in Jesus Name, JK still teaches that unbelievers MUST be filled with the Spirit, JK still teaches that the evidence of receiving the Spirit is speaking with other tongues. If you were to visit our church, you would see a lot of different people that don't necessarily look like you would expect "holy" Christians would look. Why is that? BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL NEW. Throughout 2014, Life Church added at least 300 new members. While some former traditionalist members were running for the hills to stricter churches, we were reaching out into our community and creating a MASSIVE network of Bible studies. We currently have HUNDREDS of unchurched people attending Bible studies in homes across the greater Houston area. The church's message has changed from religion and tradition to one of relationship with Christ and reaching the lost.
I can personally testify that my relationship with God and my knowledge of scripture has grown SO much since I've been a member of Life Church. I spend the first 20+ years of my life in a traditional UPC church. I was constantly told what to believe and not to question what I was taught. Being pastored with an open hand of love as opposed to an iron fist of condemnation has drastically changed my life.
I truly cannot picture Christ saying anything near those words of hate that came out of HH's mouth. Elder JK was a man of grace and dignity. He was not one to grovel at someone's feet with "mucous" pouring out of his nose. I call "FALSE" on HH's statement.
Also, for the record, JK is a grown man over 50 years old. No one calls him Jimbo. Not even his closet friends. It's disrespectful.
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I appreciate this post from a church member but have to question you on one thing. You seem to suggest that JK and the church are still holding on to the clothesline legalism of the UPC, that the reason the church looks different is just because there are so many new members. This suggests you think that JK will still preach and uphold the clothesline standards of the UPC and that over time these new saints will "line up"with the women giving up wearing makeup, cutting their hair, jewelry, pants, etc. Can you confirm this is what you were inferring? If so I think you are very, very wrong in that regard. Those "standards" are not biblical and cannot be justified and I don't think JK will do so.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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