[Esaias]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

What a bunch of hogwash, some of you can't even count days right, what school did you go to?
The Jewish day begins at sundown.

Jesus died at the 9th hour of the day, that is 3:00 pm, however the Jews state that the sundown begins at 6:00 pm, Joseph and Nicodemous wrapped Jesus in spices and took him to the tomb, so this whole process must have taken about 3 hours.

So Jesus was laid in the tomb at about 6:00 pm
So let us count the days and see which days add up.

Friday 6:00 pm to Saturday 6:00 pm (1 day)
Saturday 6:00 PM to Sunday 6:00 AM morning (1/2 day)

So we have here 1 day and a half

Thursday 6:00 PM to Friday 6:00 PM (1 day)
Friday 6:00 PM to Saturday 6:00 PM (2 days)
Saturday 6:00 PM to Sunday 6:00 AM (1/2 day)
so we have here 2 days and a half.
Since Jesus rose on the first day of the week,
that would make it Sunday after sunrise (6:00 AM)

simply math destroys your theories.
The Bible is right Jesus rose up on the third day.

I've known you (online) a long time (since Delphi days) and I love you bro, but you are wrong on this. I will prove it nine different ways.

First: If partial days can be counted as a whole then a Friday crucifixion is possible. You acknowledge that a partial day can be counted as a whole, therefore you admit a Friday crucifixion is possible.

Second: You said he arose AFTER DAWN on Sunday. But the Bible is clear that BEFORE SUNRISE the women found the tomb EMPTY. Therefore you are wrong. He rose BEFORE sunrise on Sunday.

Third: If he was crucified on Thursday, then Friday was a sabbath (the 15th of Abib, First Day of Unleavened Bread), and the NEXT day was the seventh day sabbath. So he would be in the grave TWO SABBATHS. But the women rested for ONE sabbath, not two. Therefore the day after his crucifixion was a sabbath, and the NEXT DAY he arose, on the FIRST DAY of the week. Therefore it HAD to be Friday when he was crucified.

Fourth: The 16th of Abib is the day of the waving of the omer of the first fruits (see also Joshua ch 5). The first fruits represents resurrection (Jesus is the first fruits). But according to your chronology, that day was on the weekly sabbath and he was STILL DEAD. A Thursday crucifixion has him miss the fulfillment of the type. A Friday crucifixion does not, for he arose on the 16th of Abib which is NOT POSSIBLE with a Thursday crucifixion.

Fifth: Luke 24 counts the days beginning with his arrest, not his burial. Since the three days are counted from his arrest, a Thursday crucifixion has him rising the FOURTH day, not the third!

Sixth: YOU SAID AT FIRST the following:

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Jesus said three days and three nights.

that means three whole days, no partial days.

We need to quit following the Catholic church timeline.

Now you are changing to say partial days can count. But your initial belief was that 72hrs were required and only a Thursday crucifixion satisfies that. Which is it?

If 72hrs is required then the resurrection CANNOT occur on the THIRD DAY, as I previously proved. It would occur AFTER the third day, and thus be on the fourth day.

The fact you have abandoned the original basis of your belief in a Thursday crucifixion indicates you are trying to hold on to it just because. If a 72hr requirement was the basis for your belief, and you drop that basis, why hold the belief? Obviously it isn't because "the math requires it".

By admitting a partial day can count as " a day", you no longer have ANY SINGLE REASON why a Friday crucifixion is "impossible". You would be reduced to having to find a verse that outright says " Thursday he was crucified ".

Seventh: You say a Friday crucifixion is 1 and 1/2 days only. Not so. He was buried BEFORE the sabbath began. That's one day. He was in the tomb during the sabbath. That's the second day. He rose sometime before dawn the next day. That's the third day.

Eighth: Jesus is the true bread from heaven. Manna was a type or shadow of Christ. Manna fell for six days. On the sixth day a double portion fell, and on the sabbath nothing fell. But the sixth day's manna was preserved during the sabbath until the day after the sabbath (first day). It was preserved for ONE DAY ONLY. But a Thursday crucifixion has the true Manna being preserved TWO DAYS (the two back to back Sabbaths required of a Thursday crucifixion scheme). This destroys the typology, whereas a Friday crucifixion preserves it perfectly, as Jesus did not see corruption in the grave during the ONE DAY sabbath.

Ninth: Jesus was crucified on " the Preparation" which is the Biblical (as well as the Judaic) term for Friday. The day before one of the annual feasts is not called the Preparation. When John speaks of "the Preparation of the Passover" he means the Preparation (Friday) of the Passover (feast), not the Day Before the Passover. If Preparation is the day before the Passover, then Jesus was crucified the day before the Passover, which is ridiculous. The Preparation, however, always meant Friday, which by itself PROVES a Friday crucifixion.