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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH
No sir, that is not what needs to happen. Even tho that is what they did to Jim Goings. Minus the tar and feathers they made a mockery of him and the church. Non of this would even be on this forum if the were not crooks in my opinion.
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They're crooks? Have you ever been given a traffic ticket? Have you ever driven faster than the posted speed? Have you ever, even once, been the slightest bit dishonest or misleading?
Such were some of you (myself included).
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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH
So everyone should forgive except them?
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I don't know why this is so hard for you and Pilgrim to understand or grasp. What THEY do or say doesn't affect where or how you will spend eternity; it's what YOU do which will. It doesn't matter if these men have repented, asked or given forgiveness. It only matters that YOU do.
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I think they should let Jim back in the church just like Jesus would. Do you agree?
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Again, doesn't matter what they do or don't do. I think you should forgive and stop seeking vengence just like Jesus said to do.
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Or do pastors that run independent get to be the judge and jury unlike what is biblical? They got found out and threw forgiveness out the window now everyone needs to forgive them?
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To the part in bold: Yes! A hundred times, YES!
And why? Because if you don't forgive, you will not be forgiven. It matters not what they do or say. Your words and actions, not theirs, are what will matter in eternity.
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Just talked to Jim the other day and he has forgiven.
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Awesome! He should show his forgiveness by dropping his lawsuit. You can't claim to forgive someone while still seeking personal vengence against them. Why haven't you forgiven them?
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When your child steals from you and apologizes you forgive right? But he will still get his punishment no? Exactly.
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Are you God? Is Jim God? Since when did you become the judge or executioner of divine punishment? You're like Jonah, waiting for the destruction of Nineveh, and if it doesn't happen, you get upset. To you, the Pastors did wrong, so they deserve punishment. You want them to be arrested and charged with a crime. You would like to see them resign from being Pastors.
Meanwhile, Mercy says "Hello."
You're sitting with popcorn, waiting for "fire and brimstone" to burn them alive while standing behind the pulpit.
But Mercy says, "They did wrong, it's true. And while I am able to destroy them as you wish, I choose instead to forgive them."