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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH
To the apologist here is the definition of crook.
noun
: a dishonest person
: a criminal
: the place where part of the body (such as an arm, leg, or finger) bends
4 :a person who engages in fraudulent or criminal practices
Remember you don't have to be caught or charged to be a dishonest or fraudulent person. As for me and my "forgiveness", I am sure glad Jesus is a better more loving person than me. How easy it must be for you as a higher, almost angelic person to tell others how and when they must forgive. I bet you forgive at the drop of a hat. After all you most likly walked in everyone's shoes so you know how it feels to put 31, 19, and 16 years in a church. Giving of time to the ministry, teaching people salvation, praying with souls that cry out for freedom, giving of finances to just be tossed out like trash, tarnished, and told not to talk to the people you've loved for all those years. Why? Because you brought sin and crooked behavior to light? Oh and it was 2 pastors. I see now. It is easy to just pick up the shattered shards of my heart, Jim's and his wife's hearts and say no big deal we forgive. Mind blowing really that I think about it. What was I thinking? Ok I forgive them completely. That still does not absolve them for what they might have to do in the end. Read your Bible a little closer. God uses men to bring forth his judgments in most cases. Throughout the Bible we see story after story how God judges with the sword or the stone. So don't sit there as an apologist for an action that was dishonest and fraudulent in nature. casting judgment on a situation you know nothing about but defend and apologize for. I find it sad you can sue a catholic, baptist, even an Assembly of God saint because they in your eyes don't believe in God. Since he brought suit after he was disfellowshipped then I see no contradiction. If you where to ask these 2 crooks (by definition) I bet they would say he is not a brother. So they got the suit coming to them from just a poor ol' worldly sinner now, so scripture should not apply to them. Enjoy your juice. Jesus would have flipped over the tables a whipped them. Now that is scripture I would have liked to see. And Jesus forgave them as well. But when? Before the beatings or after. You sir, being so forgiving can make that call. I'll be waiting.
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Looks like a tooth has been drilled way too deep once again, on Apostolic Offended Forum.
Hey, every man's own burden is the heaviest, and we all have or cuts and bruises from life whether in our out of the church. But n david is just giving a sensible view on all of this, and the facts are as my buddy Esaias posted, no one has a dog in this fight. So, in other words we don't have both sides posting here in order to know what exactly went on. Yet, it seems that on this forum we sure have quite a few individuals who have contemplated much on the tree of woe. But forgiveness is so much easier then carrying around the burden of wanting to incinerate those who have offended you. Let's keep in mind that unless we forgive we have no salvation, and since you admonish others to look at the Bible closer maybe you should again look at the part which says we aren't to take each other to court of the world but handle this among the church? Anyway, we are admonished to forgive the same way we want to be forgiven by God. Jesus has forgiven us our debts, so we better be wise enough to forgive others their debts against us.
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