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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH
To the apologist here is the definition of crook.
noun
: a dishonest person
: a criminal
: the place where part of the body (such as an arm, leg, or finger) bends
4 :a person who engages in fraudulent or criminal practices
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Wow. I wish I were like you and never, not once, been dishonest, driven faster than the speed limit or broken any other traffic or other law. You are awesome!
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Remember you don't have to be caught or charged to be a dishonest or fraudulent person.
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If that's how you want to excuse your slander. It's funny. You and pilgrim are angry at these Pastors for their alleged slander, yet you guys call them criminals when they've never been arrested or charged with a crime. They were given a civil penalty and you act like they murdered someone.
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As for me and my "forgiveness", I am sure glad Jesus is a better more loving person than me.
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You and me both!
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How easy it must be for you as a higher, almost angelic person to tell others how and when they must forgive. I bet you forgive at the drop of a hat. After all you most likly walked in everyone's shoes so you know how it feels to put 31, 19, and 16 years in a church. Giving of time to the ministry, teaching people salvation, praying with souls that cry out for freedom, giving of finances to just be tossed out like trash, tarnished, and told not to talk to the people you've loved for all those years. Why? Because you brought sin and crooked behavior to light?
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You don't know my testimony, and I'm not going to share it on here. I was Jim Goings, only I didn't do what many around me wanted me to do and file a lawsuit. I'm glad I didn't. God settled the issue better than a lawsuit would have. I don't believe myself to be better than anyone, but yes, I've been there. I'm not trying to tell you to do something I haven't done myself. I'm still picking up pieces from what happened long ago.
You can choose to be bitter and angry, vindictive and seeking for vengence. Or you can choose to forgive. The first choice is the easy one. The second choice has a reward with it.
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Oh and it was 2 pastors. I see now. It is easy to just pick up the shattered shards of my heart, Jim's and his wife's hearts and say no big deal we forgive. Mind blowing really that I think about it. What was I thinking? Ok I forgive them completely. That still does not absolve them for what they might have to do in the end.
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Whatever "they might have to do in the end" shouldn't matter to you or the Goings. THEY (the Pastors), not you, will have to stand before God and account for every word spoken and every action done.
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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH
Read your Bible a little closer. God uses men to bring forth his judgments in most cases. Throughout the Bible we see story after story how God judges with the sword or the stone. So don't sit there as an apologist for an action that was dishonest and fraudulent in nature. casting judgment on a situation you know nothing about but defend and apologize for.
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"By definition" we're both apologists. So you believe you and Goings are God's instruments of judgement on these Pastors? BTW, I don't defend what they did. In case you missed it, I've said they were wrong for their actions. I'm not so much defending them as I'm trying to help you.
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I find it sad you can sue a catholic, baptist, even an Assembly of God saint because they in your eyes don't believe in God. Since he brought suit after he was disfellowshipped then I see no contradiction. If you where to ask these [two Pastors] I bet they would say he is not a brother. So they got the suit coming to them from just a poor ol' worldly sinner now, so scripture should not apply to them. Enjoy your juice. Jesus would have flipped over the tables a whipped them. Now that is scripture I would have liked to see. And Jesus forgave them as well. But when? Before the beatings or after. You sir, being so forgiving can make that call. I'll be waiting.
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I remember reading of Jesus cleansing the temple, but I must have missed the part where He beat them. I don't doubt you would love to see these men being beaten.
Look, it's obvious you're trying to find any excuse you can to continue your pursuit of vengence against these men. I'm done trying to dissuade you from it. Enjoy your quest for vengence.