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Originally Posted by Pneuman
The UPC still has churches throughout who adhere to both of the modes of salvation. Some declare the necessity of full Acts 2:38 experience, some adhere to Romans 10 salvation and a 2nd and 3rd blessing. City Bible believes that after a person repents they need to go on and be water baptized in the name of Jesus and receive the Holy Ghost if they expect to live for God. I have yet to see anybody stop after repentance and say, "I think I am OK right here." I may or may not fully agree with the mode, but I have no doubt people are being saved and delivered in our church. |
I was raised in the UPCI, though I'm not with any organization now. My father has been a licensed minister with the UPCI for almost 65 years. He started a couple churches and has pastored in different areas for over 50 years, 35 of which was at one church. Both my parents have been in various District departments, and because of that, most of my childhood and teenage years were spent traveling around various states.
I say this because I have never visited or known of a church with the UPCI which believes the Holy Ghost is subsequent to salvation. And I definitely haven't visited or known of a church with the UPCI which believes in the Roman's 10 confession for salvation nonsense.
What are the names of these churches with the UPCI which believe in a Roman's 10 confession for salvation or that the Holy Ghost is just subsequent to salvation? Where are they located? What are the names of the Pastors?
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Originally Posted by Pneuman
At the "Merger" that formed the UPC there were two major organizations (and a couple of smaller ones I believe), the PCI and the PAJC. One held to the Acts 2:38 formula, the other to the three blessing formula with salvation obtained at repentance and confession. The "Merger" happened when one of the elders received a Word from the Lord that they should "contend for the unity of the Spirit until they all come into the unity of the faith." Thus, the UPC was born. |
I'm well aware of the history of the UPCI and the merger. The UPCI does not believe in a Roman's 10 confession for salvation, nor does it believe that the Holy Ghost is a benefit which comes after salvation. It has always believed that the New Birth and plan of salvation is what the Bible says: repentence, water baptism and the infilling of the Holy Ghost, evidenced by speaking in tongues.
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Originally Posted by Pneuman
Over the years this division has become more and more polarizing for some reason ... don't have any idea why people find the need to force others to believe the exact same way they do, but here we are. Our church has a very large contingent of ex-UPC families, people who have been run out of UPC churches because they couldn't "get it right" and some who have just seen the revelation that the UPC adds to the scripture like we did. In fact, my Pastor and his family are ex-UPC.
We are well fed spiritually, people are being saved, where's the beef
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I'm glad you've found an assembly to join.