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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH
Why was I there.... Great question that is. Well, God led me there.
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God led you there in 1999? I think you are more hurt, than bitter. But hurt turns to anger, and when you keep the anger going and find an audience to cheer you on, then it turns to bitterness. By that point it starts to fester and then turns to gangrene. Yet, this gangrene isn't the type that just kills you, but all those around you. You are supposed to carry your cross, not struggle and bleed on it. Let me say this, but when you have a problem with someone, YOU are the ONLY ONE with the problem. It messes you up, it gets uploaded in your mind. The other individual[s] may not know, or even care about the issues that caused you to feel upset and angry. The only way to get free is to forgive them by loving them. 1999 was a long time ago, not every day you were with these preachers was Jones Town. You still have good memories, remember God led you there? HH, you got to be the bigger kid in the sand box, no one else on the planet. Brother, if it was easy, then everyone would be doing it, and God didn't have to robe Himself in flesh to show us how to git it done.
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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH
So my family won't leave and I won't make them. God is in control of that.
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This is an interesting comment, but why are you here beating the drum against this church to a bunch of strangers who are perfectly comfortable in the Apostolic One God Jesus name movement? Yet, you are leaving your family members, people who mean way more to you then us in a situation you believe to be harmful? Still to top all that you are waiting for God to give them some sort of an epiphany? HH, again, you sound hurt and angry. Therefore you are still being controlled by those who upset you. Forgive them, cut off the gangrene, and allow Jesus Christ to take care of you and your old pastor. I'm not trying to say that you have to take long strolls on the beach with the guy, but when you and he meet around town you can genuinely feel peace, instead of sick to your gut.
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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH
I don't talk to them about my new church and I put no ill thoughts in their minds.
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So, you come to a forum to put ill thoughts into the minds of strangers?
I realize you want to vent all this out, but in the Christian mind set the whole thing is counter productive. In the long run it will not help you, and your family won't get any revelation if you are not totally at peace with your old church.
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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH
I will not give them a reason.
So God worked a miracle to get me to live for him. It seems that he needed to pound down this clay and start over.
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Wait, you are looking for God to pull rabbits out of the hat for your family, but won't wish the same thing for the pastor, his wife, his children, the other saints you left behind? Listen HH, wanting cookies and milk for our family members is easy, wanting them for people we have issues with is the miraculous.
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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH
That's ok tho. I'm better off now than I was ever before.
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Well, it is a wee hard to see in your postings. I understand you love Jim and his wife, but maybe you need to all have a prayer meeting about the litigations. Turn the other cheek is followed swiftly by allowing those who sue you take everything from you. Now that might make you'll happy if your old pastor emptied the church bank account, sold everything he owned and gave it all over to you and your friends. But that would make him the richer, and you not. You all might win, be able to have the church disbanded, the property sold, and have the preacher, his wife, with children thrown in the stocks in the village square. Where all the citizens of McMinnville can all take turns pelting them with rotten eggs, and tomatoes. But, in the years to come, won't make anything that happened any better. Time marches forward, and so does everyone else. Again, you are willing to allow your family to sit under the man's ministry without a peep from you, but you won't wish the same for the preacher?
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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH
Remember, you asked the question.
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I sure did.