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Hello Friends!
Been a while since I posted here...
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Nice to see you post, I hope this won't be the last.
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I gotta say, “I’m with Billy”.
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I'm so sorry hear that. Really, honestly I am and pray that logic will one day win out over ecclesiastical emotions. With true heart felt love, I will be praying for you and your family.
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Not in same exact way AP have experienced it - he would have acknowledged that I think, but our hope is ultimately not in doctrinal perfection.
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But listen, consider this, in
Luke 9:49-50, and
Mark 9:38-39 Jesus is told by His disciples that they stopped a man who was casting out demons in Jesus' name. They did this because the man wasn't a follower. Jesus instructs His disciples to not hinder the individual because no one who works a miracle in Jesus' name would turn around and speak evil of Jesus' work. But while Jesus will allow so called Christians to pull rabbits out of their hats, and saw ladies in half, their end isn't as fantastic as we would hope. Yet, Jesus explains in
Matthew 7:22-27, Many who were doing miracles, casting out demons, doing good deeds, will have Jesus tell them that He NEVER knew them. The reason Jesus gives is because they were creators of inquiry, which had nothing to do with carnal vices, but had all to do with religious foundations. Jesus explains to His followers that these "believers" didn't have the foundation stone which is Christ's teachings. In
Matthew 7:26 Jesus is emphatic when He says they who have not His teachings is like those who build their house on sand. Great is the collapse is when we stand in front of Jesus and His throws us out on our head. While some truly sincerely believe that we are going to heaven to have an ecclesiastical hippy love in, sadly and terrifyingly may be the extreme opposite. Because in
Luke 13:23 Jesus is asked if only a few would be saved? Jesus' response in
Luke 13:24 “Make every effort to enter through the cracked open door. For many, I tell you, will try to enter and will fail." Jesus then goes on to speak about a closed door and those who cannot enter.
Matthew 7:13-14 Jesus explains that the path is hard to navigate and the entrance almost closed, and those who will gain access are a small number. Sorry Hoove, but from Jesus' point of view there might not be as many denominations in heaven as you would hope to see.
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I understand some will disagree,
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Please, no offense, but we would have to be blind idiots not to.
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but I have no expectation of heaven being great Oneness Pentecostal conference. I fully expect to see a great variety of Christians in heaven.
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I also know people who fully expect to see Krishna and Vishnu. Also a friend who fully expects to be greeted by Moses, and Rebbe Mendel Schneerson. Through emotions we can fully expect that God will allow Satan to be pardoned from the lake of fire and give the Beast a second chance. But, that won't be happening.
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I think Billy Graham died in the Faith.
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What faith? Something that is created out of the tops of our heads? Is man more righteous than God? Don't you all see that what is actually happening is that we are saying that if Billy doesn't get in then its God's fault? God wasn't really loving and merciful? That is what is actually happening here? Is it not?
