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Old 04-02-2018, 11:18 AM
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Re: Are Trinitarians Saved?

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Originally Posted by Aquila View Post
Bro, have you paid attention to John MacArthur's, Strange Fire, conference??? How about followed his sermon series on, Charismatic Chaos? The man believes that not only have the gifts ceased, but that today's tongues are a demonic delusion.

Let's look at what constitutes "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" in Scripture:
Matthew 12:24-32 (KJV)
24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
The sin of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit includes attributing a genuine work of the Spirit to being demonic in origin. In this text, it was Christ's authority and power to cast out devils that was said to be of demonic origin. But the same can be said of anyone who might judge the gift of tongues, interpretation of tongues, prophecy, word of knowledge, word of wisdom, healing, etc. as being a "demonic delusion".

The man is Hell bound, damned where he stands. He's a false Apostle of Hell. And he's leading millions down the road to Hell with him by poisoning their minds against the work and gifts of the Holy Spirit. MacArthur is firewood. He's sealed his fate. He's chosen to oppose the Holy Spirit.

Look bro... no man can serve two masters. Else he'll learn to love one and hate the other. You can't fellowship with that which is inherently opposed to what you know to be true.

What is it that all this "evangelicalism" offers you that you feel you need, that you feel that you're not finding in the Apostolic movement??? Because I'm pretty sure that God isn't calling you to tear down the Apostolic truth of Scripture. Perhaps it is that very thing that God is calling you to contribute to the Apostolic movement.
Actually, much of what JM condemns in his Strange Fire conference is the same type of garbage condemned by Wilkerson and other Pentecostal ministers. Granted, JM is wrong on cessationism. But even with saying we are deceived on tongues does not constitute "blasphemy". Perhaps we should stop for a moment and consider what he is basing this on. He tends to lump all tongue-talkers together. There are many flakes out there. Reaching out to him is the solution. It's the same with his stand against our movement. As long as the hard-liners jump out in front to lead our parade, why is JM going to take us seriously? Why should he listen to someone who thinks he has NOTHING from God in his life? A couple of weeks ago you were saying similar things. Now you have totally flip-flopped.

As for your personal "pile-on"...I actually had to check to make sure this was really you posting this. Talk about a total flip-flop in just a matter of days!

So now I'm "serving two masters" for simply trying to be balanced in my criticism of JM? I'm "tearing down Apostolic truth" for simply analyzing what constitutes doing something "in the name of Jesus"? Are you serious?

Bro, I think you have let the resident hardliners on AFF, who represent but a fraction of the Apostolic movement, to shame you into back-peddling. I can no longer take you or them seriously.
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