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None of which says a woman has to wear a dress and men have to wear pants. This is has been covered to death, Brother.
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Brother the scripture is sure saying that a man cannot wear that which a woman wears and a woman cannot wear what a man wears. In the Greek it is very clear when placed with what is written in Timothy. I have yet to see anyone come up with anything refuting it, but that doesn't matter because when people have their mind made up not to go forward they won't. So much for making people do something.
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I've got some news for you. I bought the lies, hook, line, and sinker for almost 10 years. Don't assume that just because I am against these lies being preached from pulpits all across America that it means I have a bad attitude. I've studied these issues out for myself. It's funny how people in your camp always resort to saying those opposed just have a bad attitude or are in rebellion. It's become par for the course.
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Brother Rico so you studied this out and found out that God really doesn't care if people are dressed unisex? Is that what you found in your research?
Why do I think (just me personally, not all of America's Apostolics just me) that you have an attitude because you are so flipped over the subject.
It's your use of adjetives Brother Rico, like the use of the word "LIES".
What about
Leviticus 18, can you point out to me how many things within that chapter are no longer for the Apostolic Church?
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When did I say that? Apparently, you either do not read everything I say or just choose to read what you want to read.
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Then Brother Rico what are you trying to say then?
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My Puerto Rican foot. I've been there, heard the preaching, believed the lies, and found out different. You have come entirely too late to try to convince me people aren't told what to do over pulpits. If that is what you believe then you need to get your head out of the sand, Brother.
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Brother Rico what you're saying above is that we are being lied to but you've been set free and we still have our heads in the sand. Brother Rico so what do you have that we should look into? You think we should all look like we been shot out of a canon? So when Jesus said the Pharisees looked beautiful what was He talking about? Their legs?
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Hogwash! I have never said such a thing so stop making false accusations against me.
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Did you say that we are being lied to? So if we are being lied to then you're saying that we are deceived and you're enlightened. I hope your ministry does real well.
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"What if" is the best you can come up with? Anyone can use a what if argument. Since Jesus didn't preach this and David never played it on his harp then I have nothing to worry about.
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David did play it on his harp.
Psa 1:1-6
"Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the LAW of the LORD; and in his LAW doth he meditate day and night. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish."
The word for LAW is TORAH and
Deuteronomy 22:5 is part of the TORAH.
Jesus was the LOGOS made flesh (not divine but human) and that LOGOS is the rational discourse of God and that discourse is all of the TORAH.
Paul an the rest of the apostles didn't use New Testment books they used a TORAH.
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See, I am just dumb enough to believe that God is more than capable of showing me any error in my thinking.
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Brother Rico wow that's pretty good so I guess we don't have to worry about you Bro, you must be bringing some powerful revelation forward and all us conservatives are just sitting around trying to think of what we can preach against. Are the people lining up at your door yet?
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He's done it before and can do it again. And can you believe He's actually done this without having to use a redfaced preacher telling me how hot hell is going to be? What a concept. God actually leading His people and showing them which way to go. Amazing!
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Hold on, wait a minute, are you saying that GOD presents information without a preacher? Let me put it this way, can a man sit by himself and have no one around and come to revelation without ministry? Is that what you're saying?
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Good for you. I have neither a spiritual nor a biblical conviction that says it's ok for the pastor to tell me or my wife and daughters how to dress. I have searched high and low through the scriptures, looking for it, but it just isn't there because it doesn't exist.
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It doesn't exist for you because you don't want it. You refuse because you have decided that all us in Holiness Pentecostal churches are spiritual Neanderthals.
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Feel free to twist whatever scripture you want to make it say what you want it to say. Don't let me stop you.
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What's to twist Brother Rico, the word is the word, pretty hard to twist one verse of
Deuteronomy 22:5 and even harder to get
1st Timothy 2:9 wrong.
Hey, Brother Rico Mormons believe that we all come from the planet Kolob so I guess people will believe whatever they very well please.
So let me get this straight it's wrong for people to preach standards but it's not wrong for you to say that these people are liars who believe in standards?
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Exactly. That is why I can no longer go along with clothesline preaching.
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Brother Rico, when someone is done with something they're done.
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Again, why the assumption that I am headed the wrong way?
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But it's all right to say that the Holiness Pentecostals are in the Dark Ages just as long as no one putting you there. Way to go Bro.
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What does Sciencetology have to do with anything?
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You said what we think is God's way today may change in the future, I would tend to agree, but I added just as long as you don't end up going so far down the road that you end up in some flipped out religion.
Brother Rico it's like building a chopper you start out with good intentions but as you go along you might end up with something that you can't even ride.
Lord bless you my Brother.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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