[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

If a problem of any kind exists, it's a lot easier to blame an individual, than the group that produced the individual with the problem.

If you look at the world, and think it's screwed up and twisted, you might find yourself hopeless and ineffective, in that, you know you cannot fix the whole entire world.

But if you look at yourself, and think, I'm screwed up and twisted, you might find yourself hopeful and effective, in that, you know you can be fixed (at least it's a more likely proposition).

In that, again, it is a lot easier to point to the individual than it is to point to the group.

But sometimes, just sometimes, it's the group that's the problem, and the individual is the one with his or her head on straight. If so, it's up to that individual to try and help the group, if he or she can be received.

The point I'm trying to make here is:

If at BOTT, the leaders are advising therapies and counseling and help outside of the Kingdom of God, it might be time to admit that such advice is a confession that they don't got the goods to effectively help people with their manifold problems.

But that's a hard pill to swallow. It's just easier to point at individuals, or even at one's self. Because if the church is screwed up and twisted, how hopeless and ineffective do you suppose you'll be in fixing it?

That is interesting.

When you use the word “goods” as describing their effectiveness to actively help those in need of certain mental ailments. Are you saying “spiritual” goods as in the Holy Ghost, or “goods” as in medical knowledge?