Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
There is another thread discussing tongues as an initial sign, and how it relates to soteriology. Also, I’m not putting words in your mouth. Your mouth is too full of foot. Right down to your ecclesiastical knee cap. I’m just drawing conclusions from what you are posting. Concerning people going to Heaven minus Jesus’ blood. And what of those babies in Heaven, Dom? Are they covered with the blood of Jesus though not repenting nor being baptised? Will you respond to this? I think not, but surprise me. Are they the exception proving your Biblical view is incomplete, needing adjustment?
Don, do you speak in tongues? I don’t mean Ramalamadong. Or Geeda, geeda, geeda, geeda. I mean as the Spirit gives the utterance. Jesus told Nicodemus this, τὸ πνεῦμα ὅπου θέλει πνεῖ, καὶ τὴν φωνὴν αὐτοῦ ἀκούεις, ἀλλ’ οὐκ οἶδας πόθεν ἔρχεται καὶ ποῦ ὑπάγει· οὕτως ἐστὶ πᾶς ὁ γεγεννημένος ἐκ τοῦ πνεύματος.
Jesus was telling Nicodemus that the Spirit breathes where it wishes and you hear its voice, but you do not know where it is coming from and where it is going; so it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit. Hence when someone is born of the Spirit, you will hear the Spirit’s voice. Yet, like all other parables they were designed though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: 'You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.’ I spoke to an Apostolic preacher about my conscience belief and he agreed with my views. He's been preaching about 47 years, was UPC district official for many, many of those years. Does that give it any koodoos in your estimation of things? To answer my own question: It does and it doesn't. A man's opinion is just that, a man's opinion and standing beside God's Word opinions are worthless. But coming from a godly faithfull preacher it has some weight. The weight of one faithful man. So, depending on the opinion of the man who hears it, it may mean alot or may mean a little. Regardless, if you and I look long and hard enough we'll finally find at least one person who will agree with us. Again, man's opinion doesn't amount to much. You and I are both left-fielders, according to our opinions. You as not believing in the rapture and me by you as believing what I believe about the conscience. You've described me as spiritually lost, and maybe destined for hell? In the end what God alone believes will make the difference.
But keep trying!
Don, people need to speak in tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance.
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