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Old 09-28-2025, 02:54 PM
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Re: Shroud of Turin and Sudarium of Oviedo

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Originally Posted by Steven Avery View Post
The RCC came in late.

To make an issue about the fact that western Europe was largely catholic in the medieval years can be a genetic fallacy.

Otangelo Grasso
Chronological List of Pre-1356 Literature Mentioning the Shroud and Christ's Burial Cloth

https://www.academia.edu/142993891/C...s_Burial_Cloth

https://www.purebibleforum.com/index...42/#post-23412

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1251...88055055456636

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The Abgar of Edessa material is fascinating.

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A fellow named Mark Guscin also has a paper about how the Sudarium of Oviedo got to Spain from Jerusalem in AD 700

The History Of The Sudarium Of Oviedo: How It Came From Jerusalem To Northern Spain In The Seventh Century A.D.

This youtube discusses the date issues.
"History on the Sudarium of Ovideo with Dr. Mark Guscin"

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Which is it Steven? Is the shroud legit? Or is the face cloth legit? Can't be both. Yet, you still haven't dealt with how the scripture contradicts both, the shroud and the face cloth. Both are Mediaeval Roman relics. No matter how many "scientists" you can parade in front of us, there are those who can refute their claims. Yet, we don't even need them. All we need to do is go to the Bible.
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