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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
You've got to stop posting so much, Dom, I'm having trouble keeping up.  |
I'm replying to you. You are like an individual who beats his wife and claims it was her fault you did it. Don, this is how this works. You post, someone will reply. If it takes miles and miles of posting to get your thoughts out, it was due to the guy replying to your religious lunacy which is just as long. Especially if points need to be made. Don, own your own behavior. You see the bad thing about pious religiosity is that the religious pious can't ever be wrong. It ends up that everyone else around them has caused the problems on why they do what they do. Then when their opposition just leaves them alone, they count it as victory, and a job well done. No one is converted and no one is saved. Which actually, they don't care. Because it's just about a body count, not about Jesus or His kingdom.
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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
There's no need to respond to your post, Bible commentary-wise, when most of what you've said is not directly related to this thread's main contention. Why do you skirt the main issue? You've got it in you to do better.
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Don, you just want the opposition to shut up. In your mind you don't want debate, discussion, or anything close to an answer. You just want an echo chamber. You want everyone to sit around you just like little birds with all mouths open wide. Mirroring your thoughts. I have cover all the issues in this thread. But, you couldn't care less, because you want to be the holy bud nipper. All the time wanting everyone but yourself to "do better."
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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
In spite of your efforts to say Ro14 is not part to this, it is my contention it is.
And your efforts to make my conclusions to be as just described by you, have yet to be seen with proofs and logical conclusions. When will you learn that 'just saying so' doesn't mean it is so. What granola crunching hippy influences in your life leads to your making such weak efforts, lacking reason? Give readers greater hopes than this, which show greater understandings of scripture which you as an Evangelist should portray.
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Again, all you want is for us to see you as an ecclesiastical Tony Stark. Ready to lead us to a more perfect day.
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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
I would say that contending for Ro14 is also contending earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered. 1Co12, 14 are contended for, as Apostolics. It would be a mistake to delete them and Ro14 from the Bible.
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The contending is to those who come from the outside to invade the inside of the church family. You know, the wolves in sheep's clothing coming in among the sheep. The job of the shepherds, under the guidance of the master Shepherd. To expose the wolves and drive them out. You would have us believe that the wolves should be petted and fed. You see, it's the job of the wolves to convince the sheep, that the sheep dogs and the Shepherd really don't have their best interest in mind. They don't want the sheep to be free, or think for themselves. But that the wolves really want the best for the sheep. Don, no minister who doesn't agree with you is going to let you drive the bus. It just isn't happening. The more you make arguments by twisting the scripture, or pushing your Inclusionist agenda, just makes it harder for you to be fellowshipped. Also, if you are starting an Absolom ministry within the congregation, you will end up winning a one way ticket to disfellowship.
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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
Why do you wish to make Jude to narrow to just salvation/gospel/new birth issues, when Satan attacks anything NT? Correct interpretation and application of all parts of the NT are critical, including Ro14. You again demonstrate deficiencies in correct Bible interpretation and application. You are eating out of stale boxes of "Wheaties" when fresh food is available to give clearer reasoning. Do you need a donation so you can buy good food?
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Don, I have no problem with any verse or book of the Bible. I do have a problem with how you interpret the scriptures and apply them to real life. Yet, that is why no pastor would allow you in their church family to have a word serving position. You believe the presiding minister over a church family and his position on a teaching is an attack of Satan. That's problematic. because for starters their name is on the lease to the building. All those nice people on the pews look towards the elders as their leadership. Not you, you are supposed to be with them. Yet, you want to turn things in your favor by claiming that you are contending for the faith once delivered unto the saints? While you charge the pulpit, and the elders of the "hypothetical" congregation? How's that turning out for you? My boy, it gets cold up in Canada? I guess you can have a snow shovel ministry, to clear a path so you can preach and teach the birds. Because thinking that Jude applies to you attacking the ESTABLISHED leadership on a congregation is a battle which your twisted teaching can't and won't survive.