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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
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Like the fool who must defend himself, the guy who wants to deliver the package also does. The big dog barks, all the other dogs join in, and they scare off the deliverer.
The one ring show wants to run in shame when the three ring circus sets up their big tent.
Some Christians have great abilities to gather and retain info. They will sit like an elephant on the ant to smother the message the ant was given. But elephants do not necessarily a Bible interpreter make.
While Dom is agreed with, when saying that Ro14 is about weak/strong saints and their views, this then shows that it comes from surface reading. But Dom fails to address the reading between the lines methods which Paul and Jesus used to interpret scripture. You do know how to read between the lines, don't you Dom?
Dom addresses surface reading and struts about proclaiming 'I've won'. But readers will note that he has not addressed the points made from reading between the lines, to show them wrong. Those doing so demonstrate incomplete understandings of interpretive methods, which sitting on the ant is trying to compensate for.
The one ring show keeps repeating the same act and the elephant repeats the methodology which has worked in the past, sitting on the little guy.
The one-ring show has learnt that repetition works. Truth cannot be defeated because God is truth. But plz Dom, show the reasoning behind the claim of post 1 wrong, if you can. Then you will have demonstrated the ability to use that which the elephant does not use in surface reading ability.
Originally Posted by donfriesen1
Dom again, does not aim at disproving my Ro14 conclusions.
Don, I already disproved your idea of what
Romans 14 is saying.
What you have shown, Dom, is what surface reading of Ro14 shows. It is good to do so. You have yet to disprove the means I have used, to show how my conclusions are wrong. But, plz do continue to say it like you say it. It may then be that you will even convince yourself that it is really true. You believe YOU are weaker brother, because you hold the 3rd view of head-coverings, outside of Pastor Doe's view, and the UPCI view. So, Pastor Doe is a strong brother? You are the weaker brother? But Pastor Doe is supposed to hand over the pulpit to you? Sorry, but in the real world that's not happening. In your world of make believe you see yourself as an ecclesiastical Gandalf, and every other minister as a Hobbit.
What chapter are these Gandalf and Hobbit found? Oh, right. These are fictional, just like your fictional 'disproving' of my conclusions. When you come back to reality, then we'll wait to see your real talents finally put to use. But, pray tell, why have you not yet used these talents which you actually have, and have not yet disproven the means I use to provide a conclusion of Ro14? Romans 14 is speaking of elder brethren not arguing about differences with NEW CONVERTS. To allow the NEW CONVERTS to grow, and not be discouraged. This doesn't fit your case. Sorry, but no matter how many long and lengthy posts to bang out you are still wrong.
Plz, detail this, so I will know what you talk about.
I have said that no one should disagree with your weak/strong view, that all others should also look deeper, with a between the lines reading of Ro14, to discover deeper truths which God's Word often shows deeper. But not Dom. He seemingly does not have these abilities in spite of the vast knowledge he holds of both scripture and the world. I feel like an ant when beside this knowledge. Do you wish all to believe you have not yet learned about reading between the lines?
Originally Posted by donfriesen1
Dom below, mostly avoids commenting on the main reason for this thread.
Oh, but I have, you just didn't like my answer. But that's just too bad. Deal with it.
Perhaps my review of Dom's posts should be given, to produce the verity that this claim of his is not factual.
Originally Posted by donfriesen1
Perhaps Dom is calling me a trouble maker, making this to be in line with his opening tone.
Don, at this point I don't even believe you are currently in a church. You are your own worst enemy. But, as I posted before, if we have something to say that is a proper way to be heard. If the leadership of the congregation doesn't want to hear it, then you are kicking a dead horse. So, to keep trying to instigate a parley when the leadership refuses to deal with you doesn't help further your case. You are actually becoming a nuisance, also known as a troublemaker. Therefore being a pain in someone's side isn't winning any friends, and inevitably destroying any chance of being heard. But, obviously you don't care. Because you are ecclesiastically delusional. So, even if Paul preached and David played his harp you still want to have the preeminence.
And Dom again diverts to topics which do not address the main reason of the thread, Ro14. Why Dom? When you have so much talent? Plz show wrong the reasoning used to present my conclusions. You keep saying you have done so. You repeat everything else but do not repeat the part which shows that you have.
Originally Posted by donfriesen1
And what of those who earnestly contend for the faith? Are they trouble makers by your definition, Dom?
What of those who earnestly contend for the faith? Jude was dealing with an attack from outside the Body of Christ. Individuals coming into the congregation trying to teach Antinomianism! But I already posted all that!
Yes, I agree we both, you and I, both gave comments to it. But you are too blinded by your religious self importance, to even addressed what I posted already. If we are to apply you to the writer of Jude, you would be labeled as the one the saints are to contend against.
Errr, are you saying I haven't responded to what you've said? Errr, who will believe you when you say I do not reply to what you have said. No one reading these posts will agree. But then, enlighten us all by quoting what I said in error, and telling all readers how it was wrong, if you dare. Of course, reader, Dom will not do so because what I have written makes too much sense to Bible readers. So, don't hold your breath to hear back from Dom with quotes of my words. What he has written in this post is bluster. Check posts 19 and 36.
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