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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
Of course not. This would only come from a backslidden Paul.
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You say "of course not" and then you offered three examples. Of which you agree with one which alludes to Paul allowing false doctrine to continue?
You see Don, this is where you get yourself into trouble. Then everyone believes you not to be "Apostolic." Then you start sniveling on how we are misrepresenting you? Don. like I keep saying, you are the gas, we just thrown in the match. You burn all by yourself.
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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
But when Paul tells those with opposing views on the same topic (days or foods) that they are OK to do so, two conclusions come to mind:
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Don, the Apostle clearly states the weak saints are holding their "opinions" not doctrines. Opinions, which they can't even give a good argument concerning these opinions. Reason being Paul is telling the elders to cool it. Just welcome them and help them to grow, so the elder doesn't get in the way of Jesus Christ growing them. Don? Where is Paul saying that these weak saints are holding arguments of head coverings? We are pointed to food offered to demons, and honoring certain days. Not one word concerning theology, soteriology, or eschatology. Paul admonished the Corinthian church that if they were not to argue over head coverings. Due to Paul's teachings concerning head coverings was the final word, and couldn't be debated. He also pointed out that all the churches followed exactly how he taught it. End of discussion. Therefore
Romans 14, and 15 doesn't even touch
1 Corinthians 11. We are admonished to follow Paul as he followed Christ. There is absolutely zero way you could cram
1 Corinthians 11 into
Romans 14, and 15.
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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
1. Paul is showing acceptance of false doctrine (because both of their views can't be right at the same time). One or both may be wrong (false doctrine).
2. When Paul realises that God does not always clearly convey doctrine, he then informs that more than 1 interpretation is acceptable in these circumstances.
Of these two, the latter is the most acceptable/logical.
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Don, you agree with number one, because you paste number two over the top of it and call it good. You are teaching that the Apostle Paul (an APOSTLE) couldn't teach, also couldn't believe that the Holy Ghost was the PRIMARY Teacher. The Spirit of Truth guides into all truth
John 16:13. Therefore we are to test the spirits whether they be of God, because many false prophets have gone out among us. We are told to "test" those trying to teach, preach, prophesy, because if it isn't the Holy Ghost, it is going to set off alarms. You have an Apostle Paul who cannot trust the Holy Ghost, and cannot teach a lick. That's you Don, that is not the Apostle. That's you.
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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
Even you and I, Dom, demonstrate that God doesn't always clearly convey doctrine - we don't agree on an interpretation of Ro14. Thus, this disagreement gives evidence to my view.
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You are a mental case, it has nothing to do with God not speaking clearly when conveying DOCTRINE. It has all to do with you being out of your ever loving mind. I may be right, but you can't even consider that as an option. Because you are stone blind, because you see yourself as an Apostle, the leader of truth, a feeder of new converts, and a grower of olive trees. You see yourself as a restorer to bring restoration to the bride. Don, you are none of those things. But, I am not alone in that assessment.
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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
I now conclude you've helped prove the point I'm making. Thank You.
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There you go, patting yourself on the back. Like a good cult leader. Mix up the Kool Aid and pass it around. You are just silly man.
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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
Only someone with a bias or an hidden agenda would say that the Word of God is always perfectly clear,
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Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
The Book of Revelation takes the idea found in
Proverbs 30:5-6 and says this; "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
Don, how on earth can a man or woman be warned by God not to do something, they aren't capable of following those orders? You teach that they can't help themselves but to add and subtract. Because God's Word isn't pure. You teach that God's word is pretty muddy.
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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
showing only one possible conclusion in its words on one topic. God had done so purposely. To believe otherwise would insult the view saying the Lord has infinite abilities.
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But, the scripture says He doesn't do it purposely! YOU and those who are insincere do it to themselves. You are silly man.
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Originally Posted by donfriesen1
Can the conclusion in the last paragraph be shown wrong? I doubt any would try, when most would conclude the same.
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I just did, I showed beyond a shadow of doubt that you need to be taught, and not to be teaching. God help the poor souls who would end up under the wheels of your chariot.