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Old 07-18-2007, 10:04 PM
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So they are saved at repentance and will make it in the pearly gates, even if they don't get baptized by water and the spirit?
That is my understanding of the Scriptures.

Water and Spirit baptism are very important.

In Acts chapter 2 (30 AD) there were 3000 who were water baptized. We don't read whether or not any received the Holy Ghost Baptism.

In Acts chapter 8 (winter AD 31/32)
when Philip went to Samaria, many received the word (got saved) and were water baptized and two Apostles were sent down to pray with them and minister the HGB (Holy Ghost Baptism). Verse 17 says, "Then they began laying their hands on them, and they were receiving the Holy Spirit."

In Acts chapter 8, Philip made sure the eunuch believed in Jesus and then he baptized him in water. Some old versions of the text show that the Eunuch received the HGB. They read, "Then he commanded the chariot to stand still and they wend down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch: and he baptized him. And when they were come up out of the water the Spirit of the Lord fell upon the eunuch, and the angel of the Lord snatched Philip away."

In Acts chapter 9 (January AD 32), Saul made a commitment to Jesus on the road outside of Damascus. Three days later Ananias came into him and said he came "that you may receive your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit." He laid his hand on Saul and we assume that's when he received the HGB. Then he told Saul "So now, what are you waiting for? Get up; immerse yourself and have your sins washed away as you call on His name" (Acts 22:16)

In Acts chapter 10 (AD 38) as Peter preached the Gentiles believed the Gospel and the Holy Ghost fell on them. Then Peter commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.

In Acts chapter 16 (summer AD 50) it tells about a business woman who heard the word and the Lord opened her heart and then she and her household were baptized in water. There is no mention of the HGB.

Later in that chapter we read of the jailer who believed with all his family and all his family were baptized in water. Again, there is no mention of the HGB.

In Acts 18 (fall AD 51) in Corinth, Paul began by preaching in a synagogue and then moved to a house for meetings and we read that "many of the Corinthians, hearing, believed, and were baptized (18:8). There is no mention of the HGB but we find out later that there was a lot of tongue speaking going on at that church and Paul told them "...you were enriched n everything by Him in all utterance..."(I Cor 1:4) and when he speaks about their baptism the wording indicates that they had been baptized in the name of the one who was crucified for them (1 Cor 1:13-17).

In Acts 19 (October AD 53) Paul preached to some disciples of John the Baptist and explained the Gospel and afterwards they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus, and when Paul laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them and they spoke with tongues and prophesied.

So, the way I understand the early church, after people were saved or converted they were water baptized right away, (even the same day or night some times). Also, it is some times recorded that these new believers received the HGB.
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