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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Unfortunately, Elder your "interpretation" of Acts 3:19 is based on the 1611 language you blasted the other day. The KJV uses the word "converted" which for the sacramentalist, of course involves a multi-step "soul wash process" while the Greek word Epistrepho which connotes turning to God ...

Epistrepho

1. transitively
2. to turn to
1. to the worship of the true God
3. to cause to return, to bring back
1. to the love and obedience of God
2. to the love for the children
3. to love wisdom and righteousness
4. intransitively
5. to turn to one's self
6. to turn one's self about, turn back
7. to return, turn back, come back

NASB "Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord;

I agree the terms in 1611 English can throw people off. But the pattern is found in Acts 2:38. I mean, why COMMAND people to be baptized if it is an option that has no soterioloogical effect?

And Peter said baptism saves us. Jesus did nto say "He that beleiveth and is saved shall be baptized if they want." Baptism was adjoined to belief for salvation. No way around it.

metanohsate(5657)ounkaiepistreyate(5657)eivto ecaleifqhnai umwntavamartiav,

The same preacher at Pentecost, Peter, knew what the writer of Hebrews knew when in various instances he tells us that the work of our Lamb and High Priest begins when WE DRAW NIGH UNTO GOD .... are sins are wiped away, blotted, remitted, forgiven at REPENTANCE ....

In correct. Acts 22:16 involves baptism in washing away our sins through invocation. As far as folks who do not know this, God is righteous and deals with those who love Him righteously. But the word is the word. Implications are not good enough, brother.

The very same writer of Acts ... Luke in his Gospel tells us our sins remitted/forgiven/blotted out/wiped out [aphesis] at repentance.

Luke 24:47


and that repentance for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
kaikhruxqhnai(5683)epitwonomatiautoumetanoianeivaf esinamartiwneivpantataeqnh arcamenoi apoIerousalhm;

What version did you quote?

Luk 24:47 AMP And that repentance [with a view to and as the condition of] forgiveness of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.

Repentance is with a VIEW TO forgiveness of sins. And Acts 2:38 clearly lays out that repentance AND BAPTISM are for remission of sins. Faith must be followed by works that prove faith, but not works that save. James 2.

FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS is the same greek terms used in the same order as follows:

Mat 26:28 KJV For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.]

Obviously, if the terms are the same and the arrangement of them is the same, and we know th eblood is not BECAUSE OF remission of sins that already occurred, the same goes with the phrase in Acts 2:38. Repentance and baptism CAUSE remission of sins. Otherwise the blood has no part in it. This shows us that the faith required in baptism appeals to the blood which is the root cause.