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Originally Posted by staysharp
Ferd, I know we may have gotten off on the wrong foot...anyway, what I mean is this. When you write positional papers, you are not free to change your mind. People read those years later and still tie you to your position.
As we age, we wisen up, or at least we should (lol) and in the UPCI or any other organization that demands performance and a certain level of expectation, you are not free to change your mind publicly. Many do change their mind, but are not free to express it. This creates a double self or a false image. This is how hypocrisy is created.
I know of which I speak. I have been in the ministry over 20+ years and have seen many people want to change, but could not for fear. The mindset is this; "if it was wrong before, it should still be wrong now". The dynamics needed to be publicly accepted are much greater.
When you pastor, and take certain positions, the people expect you to abide by those positions. If you change your mind, you risk loosing credibility. Most pastors suffer in silence, not wanting to return to the past and admit failure. Pride keeps us from admitting wrong or even our mis-education. IT TAKES TREMENDOUS COURAGE TO BE EXISTENTIALLY RESPONSIBLE.
My post was observational of DB's behavior to criticism. Even though I thought the criticism was insane and unmerited personally, he felt a need to defend. When this occurs, from a human behavioral standpoint, there is insecurity involved. Insecurity comes from instability, instability from trying to reconcile mixed messages. This occurs during our formative years. In DB's case, he has been writing since his youth. Psychologist tell us to discount everything a man does until age 30. The brain does not fully develop until the mid-twenties.
DB is a good man, but has had to defend his position to great scholarly minds. His positions at times have been wrong and he knows it in his heart. The way we act is like this; Instead of admitting someone else may know more than we do, we defend until we die, even though we know deep deep down in the secret crevices of our heart that we are wrong. Pride won't let us admit it.
That's what David referred to in his repentance before the Lord...thou desirest truth in the inward part and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.
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To make the comment about psychologists' stance on discrediting what men (under 30 years old) say is ludicrous. So, then Staysharp are you asserting that all the teachings that Jesus Christ did as a child in the temples is not worthy and should be ignored? Furthermore, are you also asserting that the men that God inspired to write his word should not be read or adhered to, some who were younger than 30 years of age? You stated that you have been in the ministry for 20+ years. I assume you are over 30 years of age. Thus, should all those who have heard you preach or teach, now discount what you have spoken; undoubtedly by the leading of the Holy Ghost? Seeing as that does not fit in with what psychologist state and your mind just being developed?
Also, if by receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost we are transformed by the renewing of our minds, does God not make us complete in our minds. Are our minds not whole in Christ Jesus? But, if we were to listen to you then this world would go to hell if anybody is not over 30 years old. We have young saints teenagers in my congregation that travel on missions trips around the world. Preaching and teaching the gospel of Jesus Christ, they are not over 30 years old, so then those that they lay hands and are healed and receive the Holy Ghost, is that then an illusion and a fallacy? You said that you know of which you speak. Yet, you truly do not know of which you speak.
I as an ordained Minister of the Gospel (at the age of 22 and started preaching at 18 years old), an Evangelist, Pastor (previously), and a Prophet for over 35 years have sat down with good brethren of the UPCI some gone on to be with the Lord. Bro. Urshan, Bro. Guidroz, Bro. Bernard, Bro. Cole, Bro. Phillips, and the list goes on and on. All men who started out in the ministry when they were under 30 years of age, and have continued to build upon the foundation of the Apostles, Prophets, and Jesus Christ being the Chief Cornerstone a sure foundation. So for you to make such an asinine statement of what a worldly psychologist would say of disregarding all that a man does before he is 30 years old is preposterous. And I would dare you to stand up before your district presbyters and the brethren in your district at your next fellowship meeting and make the statement to them, that you believe the psychologist that state "disregard all that a man does before he is 30 years old".
I won't be responding to any of your feedback. A-men to Bro. DB's response.