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Old 02-12-2008, 02:26 PM
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Re: ------The Parousia of Jesus Christ----------

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What is happening in each set of scriptures?
Although you never offered your answers to MY questions, I will answer your's, while looking to read your answers in your future posts.

In rev 14 and 19 HE IS COMING in JUDGMENT. In Rev 20 He is SITTING in judgment. Difference!

The common denominator WHITE in all three passages is nothing by which we can establish a commonality that proves synonymous time periods. ...to say the least!

Rev 14 shows the harvest of the wheat and the judgment of the winepress of Christ. The winepress was trod and Jerusalem was the victim.

Jerusalem is the city.

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Revelation 14:20 KJV And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

Lamentations 1:8 KJV Jerusalem hath grievously sinned; therefore she is removed: all that honoured her despise her, because they have seen her nakedness: yea, she sigheth, and turneth backward.

Lamentations 1:15 KJV The Lord hath trodden under foot all my mighty men in the midst of me: he hath called an assembly against me to crush my young men: the Lord hath trodden the virgin, the daughter of Judah, as in a winepress.
Jerusalem was guilty of ALL RIGHTEOUS BLOOD SHED, adn she would have blood to drink.

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Matthew 23:34-37 KJV Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: (35) That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. (36) Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. (37) O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

Revelation 16:6 KJV For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

Revelation 18:24 KJV And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
Blood from the winepress is blood to drink.

The BIBLE never said this about any other city except JERUSALEM.

Rev 19 is Jesus coming in JUDGMENT again. Not in resurrection salvation of redemption.

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Revelation 19:11 KJV And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
He does not bring redemption.

This is war. There is no warring by the saints coming with Him... it is a spiritual picture not to be taken literally. A SHARP SWORD COMES OUT OF HIS MOUTH.

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Revelation 19:15 KJV And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
The winepress here is the same one in Rev 14.

Rev 20 is totally different. It is JUDGMENT from the THRONE of all souls. Church included. The resurrection never occurred in Rev 14 or Rev 19. But in Rev 20 it occurs.


My thoughts, anyway.
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