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Originally Posted by crakjak
I know that there are historical records, but these records have been preserved by the "fathers", so these would not be objective and knowable? There are geological records, but even these have in some cases seemed to have been fakes. I do believe there exist a preponderance of evidence, such as how could a book by so many authors have so much coherence?
However can we use the Bible itself to prove that it is accurate, are there undeniable proofs? Seems I have read of things that to believers would be undeniable?
Ultimately it becomes faith, Abraham believed God because of his experience, Paul believed because of the Damascus road experience, the apostles believed because of their experiences as they walked with Jesus. I believe because of my experience, the truth is confirmed thru prayer and the operation of the Spirit in my life and the lives of those around me. I understand that this would not be objective to the skeptic.
Then there are those that want to argue that the Bible is inerrant, every word, every sentence etc, etc! To which I would ask which version or translation? Of course it is in its original language, but where would I get one of those? So, I accept that the Bible gives us an accurate revelation of God, when accurately interpreted as revealed by the Holy Spirit.
Thanks, Dave for this challenging thread, these are just my thoughts that your questions have provoked.
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Actually, as I stated in a previous post, every experience we have is interpreted. Abraham and Paul had experiences that in and of themselves could have gone either way but through their presuppositions they interpreted the dreams the way God ordained.
One of the main problems I have with empirical apologetics is that it leaves the sinner to interpret the facts. Besides that, philosophically they are just bad arguments. Hume and Russell showed that.
In the examination of the Christian worldview we find that it and it alone is able to consistently show a non-arbitrary, logical, and objective view of life and is the only one that can provide answers that aren't illogical and arbitrary. Unless we start with the Word of God as our axiom we cannot logically explain anything else.