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Originally Posted by TRFrance
It's clear? Really? Great.
I assume that to you it's clear too then.
Now lets recap from just the first 40 posts of people reading this thread, trying to figure out where he stood on the issue:
Sam wasn't sure.
I wasnt sure initially
Epley wasnt sure (at least initially)
DeltaGuitar thought it had a "oneness slant" (<---his own words)
1399 didnt seem to be sure either...
Neither was St Mark (he suggested a member of Scott's church "could clear this up" for us).
Multiple people read it and werent sure exactly what DScott's position was....But to you it's just "clear"? Well that's pretty impressive then if that's the case.
So explain to us then, JT .... Is his article clearly Oneness, or clearly Trinitarian? Break it down for us, if you dont mind.
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Since you can not read really well I will quote it for you....
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We are speaking about Jesus, of course. He was a Jew who claimed to be God (see John 10:24-34). He was a wonderful teacher, or rabbi. He claimed to be the legitimate King of Israel. We believe that He was God. We also believe that He was fully man. Christians believe that this God-man, Jesus Christ, offers a way for human beings to become God’s immortal companions. We also believe that as King of the covenant nation of Israel, Christ has granted citizenship to all that believe in Him and accept Him as their King. In other words, Christians believe that the Christian church is the spiritual continuation of the ancient nation of Israel, and that Christians are citizens of that nation."
This is VERY clear. He believes that Jesus is God. Do you see it now?
Another quote:
"Obviously, by deciding to use the word persona, the Church fathers were using a metaphor to help us understand the nature of God as we had come to understand Him in the New Testament. Like all metaphors, the word persona has strengths and weaknesses. A mask hides the actual face of a person. A role is something an actor assumes in contrast to his actual personality.
Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not God’s masks; they are who He is. Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not roles the God assumes; they are revelations of His actual nature."
Another:
"So the word persona can confuse as well as enlighten. Greek speaking Christians decided not to use the word persona for that very reason. However, Western Christians have continued to use it, despite its limitations because we really have no other word that works nearly as well. I once heard an Eastern Orthodox theologian say that “Father,” “Son,” and “Holy Spirit” are the interior names of God, they tell us what God is like inside Himself. That comment helped me a lot."
If this don't allow you to see it like I saw it then I can not help you.