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Old 12-05-2008, 09:41 PM
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Re: Pitfalls in Solely Relying on Acts for doctrin

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Originally Posted by TRFrance View Post
Yes sir.
If a person is praying in tongues, that is definitely a manifestation of the gift of tongues. But for someone who is being filled with the Holy Ghost....it is the gift of the Holy Spirit they are receiving, evidenced by the (initial) speaking in tongues. But not everyone who receives the gift of the Holy Spirit, even though they speak in tongues then, is receiving the gift of tongues at the same time.

To use myself as an example, I'm like millions of believers who speaks/prays in tongues at will. That is a manifestation of the gift of tongues, which we sometimes refer to our "prayer language". (In my case, this didnt come to me until a few years after I initially received the gift/baptism of the Spirit and spoke in tongues)
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But I have never given a "message" in tongues [with accompanying interpretation] as other people I know. That is also a separate manifestation of the gift. Paul addresses both of these in 1 Cor 14.
The literal translation of Mark 16 is "they shall speak in new languages" and it doesn't refer to an unknown tongue, it's referring to preaching the gospel in every tongue.

Let's address this "prayer language" because that's one that I've studied a bit more.

Here's what Paul said about praying in an unknown tongue:

13Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.

14For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.


I've heard people talk about intercession, and how that is praying with words, or groanings that can't be understood.

But, Paul seems to be saying that just praying in an unknown tongue is not fruitful, even when the spirit is praying - IF there is no interpretation.

Now, I'll grant you that there are two different instances of tongues in the Scripture, as we have already discussed: the initial sign to those gathered in Jerusalem, which we've established is "another" tongue, or known language; and the gift of tongues, which should have an interpretation.

But, nowhere do I see that anyone is encouraged to simply pray in tongues without an interpreter.

Your thoughts?
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