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Originally Posted by missourimary
I think I'm very confused right now...
Not to hijack the thread, but do you think there are no real conservatives on here, then? Why not, if not?
Most conservatives, on and off this board, that I know-though I won't presume to speak for leadership-are true conservatives by your definition.
For me, sometimes I'm right of right and other times I'm just far right of left. And, being a woman, I'm at all times just plain right!
But I do consider myself conservative, and I have no agenda -except getting married, but that isn't a board issue so certainly shouldn't count-right? 
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Within the Apostolic movement the self described "conservatives" have introduced a lot of changes. In the political world and the broader culture, it is "liberals" who introduce change and want to over turn the established order.
Check out the Manual of the Pentecostal Church, Inc.
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=22342
This is the manual that was used as a guide at the time of the merger. Notice the use of the word "trinity" to describe the Oneness of God. Notice also how salvation came at the time of conversion. The "old timers" here fellowshipped Trinitarians and considered all sincere Christians to be saved.
Those are the kinds of things that many of the self described "conservatives" among us have sought to over throw. They introduced new language to the Articles of Faith and the Fundamental Doctrine to try and change the UPC to become more of what they wanted.
Again, "liberals" introduce change. "Conservatives" conserve the past. I consider myself to be a rather solid conservative. I fellowship Trinitarians and believe that all sincere Christians are saved - just like my Apostolic Faith forebears believed.