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Old 02-08-2010, 05:53 PM
Jason B Jason B is offline
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Re: Banned from AMF, AGAIN!

I find it interesting (and sad) that a muslim comes on AFF and has/knows more scripture about tithing that those who will pound the pulpit and tell anyone who will isten that they are robbers of God, and hell bound it they don't fork over the 10%.

I think I'd get me face back in the book if a muslim was providing more scripture for a doctrine I am dogmatic about, but can't explain under scrutiny.

Probably feels like this:



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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam View Post
I think it may be inaccurate to say that tithing was not part of the old testament law.

Your reference from Malachi 3 is tied literally and directly to specifically outlined old testament law. The law was spelled out with a specific promise. Malachi ver batum explains that this law is not being followed then repeats the promise.

Will a man rob God? Yet you rob me.
"But you ask, 'How do we rob you?'
"In tithes and offerings. 9 You are under a curse—the whole nation of you—because you are robbing me. 10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this," says the LORD Almighty, "and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it. 11 I will prevent pests from devouring your crops, and the vines in your fields will not cast their fruit," says the LORD Almighty. 12 "Then all the nations will call you blessed, for yours will be a delightful land," says the LORD Almighty.


What the people were supposed to be doing:

Deuteronomy: The tithe was an annual event to be enjoyed as a celebration of rejoicing by the one paying the tithe and his family. To be shared with the priesthood. Every third year, all tithe was to be stored as goods in a specific place for the priesthood and the poor.

Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the LORD your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the LORD your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the LORD your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the LORD will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the LORD your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice. 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.

At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year's produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.


Deuteronomy 26 - again tithing referenced as annual event and specifically describing "year of the tithe"

When you have finished setting aside a tenth of all your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe, you shall give it to the Levite, the alien, the fatherless and the widow, so that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied.


Verse 16-19 of Deuteronomy 26:

16 The LORD your God commands you this day to follow these decrees and laws; carefully observe them with all your heart and with all your soul. 17 You have declared this day that the LORD is your God and that you will walk in his ways, that you will keep his decrees, commands and laws, and that you will obey him. 18 And the LORD has declared this day that you are his people, his treasured possession as he promised, and that you are to keep all his commands. 19 He has declared that he will set you in praise, fame and honor high above all the nations he has made and that you will be a people holy to the LORD your God, as he promised.

So, the question gets repeated. How did an annual event of family celebration of thanks with a 3-year event of paying tithe to the priesthood become a weekly/bi-beekly/monthly yoke around the necks of modern christians and please do not give out-of-context passages as a way of explanation?

And sir, I am all the way over in Saudi Arabia. If you have a computer in front of you you have a bible in front of you. This is merely study for me. Just say you do not have time or energy to look up the passages, but please do not claim not to have a bible. LOL
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