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Old 04-26-2010, 12:43 PM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save

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Originally Posted by notofworks View Post
Bolded....no, I don't believe it is. Repentance is NOT a Godly sorrow.
But the Greek definition says "(morally to feel compunction)"

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Repentance is the RESULT of Godly sorrow.
Yes, I can agree with you, partly. But godly sorrow works repentance. But godly sorrow is PART of repentance, too. The Greek definition actually said it! From G3326 and G3539; to think differently or afterwards, that is, reconsider (morally to feel compunction): - repent.

That is the reason we read that the pricking of the heart in Acts 2:37 led to the command from Peter for the people to repent in Acts 2:38. First, the heart is pricked, and then the command to repent is to be fulfilled.
Acts 2:37-38 KJV Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? (38) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, ...
How would you describe someone obeying the command to repent? What do they do when they repent? It is something we choose to do, otherwise neither John the Baptist, Jesus or Peter would tell people they must repent. So it is a work. The only way it is not a work is if we have no choice to accomplish it or not, and it just happens to us without our decision.


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Despite your very thorough explanation, and granted, it's ten times the explanation most could ever give, you still seem to have an element of belief that repentance is a spit & slobber session of begging God for forgiveness. And that's absolutely an element we don't see in scripture.

"Repent" still means "repent", and as you provided the Greek roots for the word we see in scripture, it is a "Turn", or "To think differently". Webster's is fine but that's not the core of the word we see in the bible, which does not mean "To feel pain, sorrow, or regret".
Strong's did not even use the term TURN. But I agree turning is involved since it is thinking differently. But the Greek term included FEELING compunction, which is a sorrow. To feel sorrow and Strong's Greek flatly said that.

And that involves thinking differently about sins. I refused to think that the sin I was in was indeed sin. So the repentance element was to think differently and admit it was indeed sin.
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