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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer
So yes I beleive salvation is complete when and if one has true faith and confesses with thier mouth Jesus Christ is Lord. If thier salvation is true, true works will follow and fruits of the spirit.
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Then you have a different view then Peter and Paul and the early church. They taught we are saved by grace through faith and not of works lest any man should boast (works of the Law) and also other things too. They taught there was a conversion where you were saved from previous sin, an encounter where you can be saved from the power of sin currently, and the hope that you will be saved from the presence on sin in the future.
Salvation was always ongoing in the scripture. There is no point you can say, I am completely saved, if so that would mean you have no sin nature anymore to deal with. This was Paul's discourse in
Romans 6,7,8. He also talked about was saved, presently being saved, and having the hope of salvation in the future.
Honestly bro, if we take
Romans 10:9 and all the faith scriptures (howbeit faith without works is dead anyway) and leave out work out your own salvation, endure till the end, be baptized, receive the Holy Ghost, etc.. as necessity.. we have become totally different than the first church and we LOSE our apostolic identity.
That identity cannot be lost.
That being said I do not believe the Lord will let anyone that is currently seeking Him with their whole heart to be lost in Hell. He will lead them in truth.
The apostolic church needs the revelation of grace and the "easy believism" faiths need revelation that there is more to it.