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Originally Posted by pastorrick1959
so nice to find other who can understand what they read,,,dont have to twist and sqirm scriptures around to make something, something, that isnt something lol. that dual nature thing is a jeckle and hyde god stuff ,, very ignorant!
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Oneness and Trinitarian are so similar in a lot of ways that they are practically running each other over and both stumbling over verses that are simple to accept.I once heard a great Apostolic preacher named Gregg Rigden say "Every New Testament doctrine should have a Old Testament background,other words,you should be able to trace your doctrine BACK to the Old Testament and find out exactly where it had a beginining.What neither of those camps can prove is where God said He would become a man and become his own Messiah,it is not there,yet they want to both claim Jesus was God in a human body.Jesus never thought He was God,the Apostles never thought He was God and neither did the common folk or even the Pharisees believe He was.Groups today make a claim that surpasses all those mentioned in the Bible and give Jesus a tittle He was never called.. Jesus did not even want his Apostles to even mention He the Messiah yet alone say He was God..
Were not the Apostles there when Jesus prayed in JOhn 17? Did they think and understand He was praying to himself or using his dual nature?
Did they not understand the words of Mary when Jesus specifically told her to go and tell his "brethren"
Joh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to
my God, and
your God.
Did they understand Jesus had a God? Were the Apostles not monotheist in understanding of the Shema?.
Deut 6:4?
We have recorded evidence of a scribe AGREEing with Jesus
Mar 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he
had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mar 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Mar 12:32 And the scribe said unto him,
Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
The scribe did not say there is none other but you Jesus..He agreed with the answer Jesus gave..there is only one Lord who is God..
Can we not let Jesus be who He claimed to be?