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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
To clarify - I was saying that RevDWW was saying the same thing as you said in the above paragraph - "Saving faith is obedient faith, submissive faith, living faith, not mere mental assent without further action."
I do not agree that you are saved at repentance or the Word would not say in I Peter 3:21 "even baptism doth also now save us" or it wouldn't say in Romans 8:9 "Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."
Acts 2:38 covers all three necessary elements of obedient faith, submissive faith and living faith. It preaches, concisely, the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and our response to that. Even though we have the choice to be obedient to repentance and baptism, we must also desire/pray to receive His Spirit also ( Luke 11:13). A free gift, something we cannot give ourselves, but necessary nonetheless. It is salvific regardless what others preach. |
But of course the entire Gospel of John speaks of salvation and God's saving in terms that need qualifying.
Perhaps it's the Romans "Baptism also saves us" and "have not the SOG you are none of His" need some further examination to be consistent.
We are saved the same way Abram was. Called by Grace, trusted and believed, it was accounted as righteousness. Creating a soteriology on the grounds of everything else is an unfortunate disservice to the effectual work of Grace.