Is this one of those RELEVANT CHURCHES?

SDG · #1 12-08-2008, 02:41 PM

http://www.theauthenticchurch.com/

Ron · #2 12-08-2008, 02:42 PM

Relevant, or Authentic?

bkstokes · #3 12-08-2008, 02:44 PM

I can't really tell by their web site.

My Own Eyes · #4 12-08-2008, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkstokes

I can't really tell by their web site.

Really?

It is, and it isn't.

It's an Apostolic church, with UPC roots (Ready the statement of Faith, and the Pastor's Bio, not sure if it is still UPC).

And it is one that is definintely taking a step in the right direction, IMO.

SDG · #5 12-08-2008, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Own Eyes

Really?

It is, and it isn't.

It's an Apostolic church, with UPC roots (Ready the statement of Faith, and the Pastor's Bio, not sure if it is still UPC).

And it is one that is definintely taking a step in the right direction, IMO.

WF is still UPC, isn't he?

Baptismal statement seems pretty traditional. Salvaton and HG statement ????

My Own Eyes · #6 12-08-2008, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

WF is still UPC, isn't he?

Baptismal statement seems pretty traditional. Salvaton and HG statement ????

I checked on the UPCI church locator, and no pastor by that name was listed.

You are right about the salvation and HG statement. Just reading it, I would classify it as your standard one-steppers. However, the "We believe that the remission of sins occurs through water baptism by immersion in the name of Jesus Christ." definitively counters that.

I guess that makes them two-steppers? As they don't state that the HG is a necessity, just that it is available to all.

2020Vision · #7 12-08-2008, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Own Eyes

I checked on the UPCI church locator, and no pastor by that name was listed.

You are right about the salvation and HG statement. Just reading it, I would classify it as your standard one-steppers. However, the "We believe that the remission of sins occurs through water baptism by immersion in the name of Jesus Christ." definitively counters that.

I guess that makes them two-steppers? As they don't state that the HG is a necessity, just that it is available to all.

I don't think this is a "church" in the typical sense of the word. I believe this is more of a "movement". Am I wrong? Where is the church address??

ChicagoPastor · #8 12-08-2008, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

WF is still UPC, isn't he?

Baptismal statement seems pretty traditional. Salvaton and HG statement ????

Wayne is very much still UPC.
He has been at HQ's for the last several years.

From what I know, he is moving back to NY (unless something changed) to start a Church in 2009

SDG · #9 12-08-2008, 03:00 PM

This is a new church plant ... it would not be on the locator right away.

WF was/is part of the Youth Division ... he's gone back home to NY.

edjen01 · #10 12-08-2008, 03:03 PM

WF is still with the UPCI. If by "relevant" you mean a church that will try to express Christ in a modern way...then I think yes. If you mean "relevant" as in...all roads lead to heaven....then no.