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Old 09-08-2008, 05:49 PM
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Quaker Question (not the oatmeal!)

Hey Family,

Well AFF has had to take a bit of a back burner in my life, as I have started back to work and back to my own school work. However I NEED YOU! please do not think I am a fair weather friend, but instead think of me like the college student who comes home for toilet paper and cup 'o soup.

I am writing a paper comparing the similiarities between Early American Quakers (Georger Fox, William Penn) to modern day Pentecostals. Does anyone have any info on this? I have found some interesting things, but I know there are some who are way smarter than me on here...

Here are some points I have begun to make:

*Early Quakers and modern Pentecostals both felt that their “religion” went beyond the confines of a Sunday morning worship service.
*Early Quakers and modern Pentecostals put a strong reliance of prayer.
*Early Quakers and modern Pentecostals both have (had) an outward expression of the presence of the Lord (i.e, lift hands, ‘quaking’, glossololia)
*Both have been scorned by society (Current Pentecostals have not had their tongues bored, however after the fact that Sarah Palin was said to be an Assembly of God Pentecostal, she suffered some negative publicity for it)
*Both are viewed by society to be extreme (fanatical) in their views



Any websites or links would be helpful...

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Old 09-09-2008, 04:32 AM
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Here are several links that reports Early Quakers speaking in tongues.


http://www.victorious.org/churchbook/chur63.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongues


http://www.icwhp.org/article-quakers.html


http://www.mlcook.lib.oh.us/The%20Sh...%20Quakers.htm

http://www.supenn.com/whitman.html

********evidently Quakers were leaning away from trinitarian theology***

http://www.abc-coggc.org/jrad/volume...%20Quakers.pdf

http://lightandsilence.org/2006/12/e...estions_1.html


******Divine healing and miracles among the early quakers**********

http://hallvworthington.com/George_F...xmiracles.html
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Now the Shakers an offshoot of the Quakers were MUCH more into manifesting the supernatural move of God such as dancing in the spirit and tongues, prophecy dreams and visions.
They held to a more dual nature of the Godhead as father and mother which of course in the various attributes of God those traits are present
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Now the Shakers an offshoot of the Quakers were MUCH more into manifesting the supernatural move of God such as dancing in the spirit and tongues, prophecy dreams and visions.
They held to a more dual nature of the Godhead as father and mother which of course in the various attributes of God those traits are present
Thanks a lot! This really helps my paper!
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:56 PM
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Now the Shakers an offshoot of the Quakers were MUCH more into manifesting the supernatural move of God such as dancing in the spirit and tongues, prophecy dreams and visions.
They held to a more dual nature of the Godhead as father and mother which of course in the various attributes of God those traits are present
My husband and I just went to the Shaker Village in Harrodsburg KY last weekend. I learned a LOT about "Mother Anne". VERY INTERESTING. Anne Lee actually was put in jail, I THINK, in England and while there she wrote that The Spirit of God came upon her. Sound familiar? Anyway, she NEVER made the claim that she was The Christ in Female Form, BUT, after her death this apparently became one of their core beliefs.

Their "real" name is United Brethren of the Second Coming. They believe that Mother Anne was the Second Coming and lived communally because they believed they were living in the 1000 year reign.

I could go on and on. It really is an interesting religion.

Yep! They were called "Shaking Quakers" and got PRET-TY wild! But, in later years calmed down a bit. Probably because they were getting OLDER!

Anyway, sorry to go on and on. Good Luck on your paper!

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Hey PRO-girl, If possible, will you consider sharing the paper after it has served it's scholarly purpose?

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Hey PRO-girl, If possible, will you consider sharing the paper after it has served it's scholarly purpose?

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LOL! Well it depends on the grade...
After the way I feel about writing it tonight, I may not even want to share it with the professor! I have had a really rough week, and I am generally an anti-procrastinator, but not this weekend!
It's only an essay (2-3 pages), which should be a snap... but I am tired!

Last semester I had to write a 12 page paper on "Grace, Law, and the Beatitudes", but like a smart person I started on that early!
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LOL! Well it depends on the grade...
After the way I feel about writing it tonight, I may not even want to share it with the professor! I have had a really rough week, and I am generally an anti-procrastinator, but not this weekend!
It's only an essay (2-3 pages), which should be a snap... but I am tired!

Last semester I had to write a 12 page paper on "Grace, Law, and the Beatitudes", but like a smart person I started on that early!

I am feeling that way myself.



tear in my beer...
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I am feeling that way myself.



tear in my beer...
Cause I'm cryin' for ya dear....

My other half has had the week off, and he says that being my "assistant" ('honey do' guy)for the week was more work than his usual 60 hour week!
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Re: Quaker Question (not the oatmeal!)

One way they are different is that Quakers really did not believe in the necessity of baptism in the truest sense ... not for obedience or salvation
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