Carnality in the church

Charlie Brown · #1 02-13-2007, 07:58 PM

Am I just a block head, or is there a ridiculous amount of carnality in the church today? Thinks that would have made granny weep before the Lord are now shouted from the housetop. We have a church generation that now thinks its ok to entertain themself with violence, and sexual innuendos. Hello! Can't we figure out that when we take this garbage into our mind and heart, it changes us, and transforms us more into the image of the world?

I was amazed to have someone recently ask me, "does everything have to be about the spiritual". And why wouldn't we want it to all be about the one that gave his all for us? Are we so blinded by the world that we can no longer see what is happening to us?

Felicity · #2 02-13-2007, 08:14 PM

The church is full of carnality but I think it always has been. The early church certainly was.

The real problem is that there's LESS of a lot of things that there used to be MORE of. Like consecration, commitment, prayer, fasting, sacrificial service, and prayer.

Did I mention prayer?!

Charlie Brown · #3 02-13-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity

The church is full of carnality but I think it always has been. The early church certainly was.

The real problem is that there's LESS of a lot of things that there used to be MORE of. Like consecration, commitment, prayer, fasting, sacrificial service, and prayer.

Did I mention prayer?!

Hey, did you add prayer to that list????

Felicity · #4 02-13-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

Hey, did you add prayer to that list????

Hehe! I think I did but just in case someone might have missed it I'll say it again ....

There is a LACK of prayer in most churches today. Moreso I believe than years ago when Pentecost was younger and newer and when there weren't as many 3rd, 4th and 5th generation apostolics around.

#5 02-13-2007, 08:17 PM

Maybe there is carnality in the church because the church is full of sinners.

On a side note, would you consider the moderate consumption of wine to be carnality?

Felicity · #6 02-13-2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by samp

Maybe there is carnality in the church because the church is full of sinners.

On a side note, would you consider the moderate consumption of wine to be carnality?

But there has ALWAYS been sin and sinners in the church.

As to your question about wine we're teetotalers. How about you?

#7 02-13-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity

But there has ALWAYS been sin and sinners in the church.

As to your question about wine we're teetotalers. How about you?

Yes, there has been and always will be carnality in the church.

I am a moderate consumptionist.

Charlie Brown · #8 02-13-2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by samp

Maybe there is carnality in the church because the church is full of sinners.

On a side note, would you consider the moderate consumption of wine to be carnality?

I am not even talking so much about what is done really. Its the mindset that really has floored me over the course of time.