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Old 05-22-2007, 09:38 AM
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And In That Day Ye Shall Ask Me Nothing...

mfblume left the following post on another forum. I think it is very interesting and wanted to present it here as well.

This post is brought over to AFF with permission from mfblume. Thanks again Brother Blume for sharing your insight.

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This is an interesting issue.

Jesus said these words:


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Joh 14:13-14 KJV And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. (14) If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
He said HE, JESUS, would do what we ask in His name.
Then we read:

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Joh 15:16 KJV Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
But then we read this:


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Joh 16:22-24 KJV And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you. (23) And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. (24) Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.
Comments?

Most of us believe Oneness here. And I am oneness. But the above clearly states some issues regarding praying to the Son or the Father. Jesus distinctly said in that day ye shall ask me nothing.

Many oneness people dismiss this as though there is no purpose for it in the Bible, but it is in the bible and Jesus, Himself, said it. I think we miss it when we say that Jesus is God so if we pray to the Son or the Father it does not matter. I disagree. The Son still has a role that is apart from the role as Father. And we are to keep those distinctions in mind, though I certainly do not agree they are distinct persons.
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