Dismount your high horse......

Originalist · #1 04-02-2016, 01:10 PM

...please all you Anti-Trumpers and everyone else and carefully consider the words of Rush Limbuagh from yesterday.

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Folks, I was just talking about the passion that exists on both sides here. The passion that Trump voters have for him is equaled by the passion they have in opposition to Cruz, and it's the same with Cruz people. Cruz supporters are so passionate of Cruz, and they are so, so angry and frustrated with Trump supporters for not seeing the light. And the Republican Party had better be careful, because if they end up tiring a fire hose on the passions of all of these voters, there is no way the party survives, and that's what this is.

You've got this burning passion. You've got a significant segment of Republican voters, it's a large group of people, all of the energy in this primary season is on the Republican side. Look at that turnout. That turnout is through the roof. The establishment doesn't have a single person that could generate that type of turnout. There's not a single person they can choose from their fresh faces that would come anywhere near equaling this kind of excitement. Nowhere near maintaining this kind of excitement leading to continued turnout records, which are happening in primaries.

If they do what these stories indicate they're thinking of doing, it's the equivalent of turning a fire hose on these passions and potentially on both groups of voters. And if just one of these groups of voters decides to sit it out, then it doesn't matter what fresh face they come up with. And that's why there are some people who think that the Republican establishment is totally cool with that, totally cool with maintaining the establishment, but losing to Hillary, because at least they maintain themselves. They sustain in their jobs, they sustain in their lifestyles, they remain entrenched where they are. But I don't know how you quell these passions and then convert this passion to somebody who has not run or somebody who has run and has been shellacked, but apparently it's what they're plotting or planning.

It's fine to hate Trump, to love Cruz and to be frustrated with those who do not agree, all in the name of "principle". But if I went strictly by principle I'd be voting for the Constitution Party candidate or writing in Ron Paul's name. There comes a time when we must balance principle with pragmatism. So then, what do all of you think is going to happen at the convention? If Rush is right as to there being an establishment conspiracy (which Rush , Sean and I agree on), then do we just cover our eyes and ears and cling only to "principle"? What are your thoughts?

Birddog · #2 04-02-2016, 01:14 PM

Yes, vote Trump. Lol

Evang.Benincasa · #3 04-02-2016, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Birddog

Yes, vote Trump. Lol

FlamingZword cut it out!

n david · #4 04-02-2016, 03:27 PM

Give it up, O. I'm #NeverTrump. I understand the rumors going around about what the establishment wants to do.

However, I'm not going to abandon my principles and vote for a pro-choice, faux conservative who doesn't know the role of government or what the role of a SCOTUS Justice is, just so I can put my thumb in the eye of the establishment.

Not going to happen.

Just as the establishment seems willing to lose to Hillary to keep control of the party, I'm willing to lose to Hillary instead of voting for a fake and a fraud like Donald J. Trump.

n david · #5 04-02-2016, 03:30 PM

And this "get off your high horse" goes both ways.

Originalist · #6 04-02-2016, 03:31 PM

Asking someone to comment on what they think will happen at the convention is not a request for the commenter to abandon their principles. The continued evasion of this topic and discussion by the NeverTrump mob is very telling. They are just as much without substance as they claim Trump is. All they have is satire, nothing more.

n david · #7 04-02-2016, 03:59 PM

Nobody knows what is going to happen at the RNC. Except for Esaias.

And it matters not what happens at the convention. Regardless if the establishment puts out Paul Ryan or allows the voting between Cruz and Trump.

Doesn't matter. I'm not going to support Trump in any circumstance. I may as well vote for Hillary, since they agree on abortion and the role of government.

Originalist · #8 04-02-2016, 04:15 PM

Ok. We understand that a certain poster won't be voting for Trump. Who cares? Can he contribute anything other than that to the conversation? Apparently not?

FlamingZword · #9 04-02-2016, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by n david

Give it up, O. I'm #NeverTrump. I understand the rumors going around about what the establishment wants to do.

However, I'm not going to abandon my principles and vote for a pro-choice, faux conservative who doesn't know the role of government or what the role of a SCOTUS Justice is, just so I can put my thumb in the eye of the establishment.

Not going to happen.

Just as the establishment seems willing to lose to Hillary to keep control of the party, I'm willing to lose to Hillary instead of voting for a fake and a fraud like Donald J. Trump.

If President Hellary Clinton happens to go by your town, make sure to wave at her and kiss the ground she walks on, you can also kneel and bow down before her.

n david · #10 04-02-2016, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist

Ok. We understand that a certain poster won't be voting for Trump. Who cares? Can he contribute anything other than that to the conversation? Apparently not?

And what, exactly, have you contributed besides asking what we think may happen at the RNC?

Oh, right, you called me a zealot and mentally retarded. That was deep and substantive.