Please do not label me as a heretic....

[ChTatum]

Before I go any further, please understand this is for the sake of discussion, and I am not endorsing this as doctrine.

In studying yesterday, I came across a train of thought that stated the 120 probably were not in the upper room when the Holy Ghost fell.

Acts 1:13 "And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and judas the brother of James".

Acts 2:1 states:
"And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place."
No real mention of them still being in the upper room.

Luke 24:52-53
"And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy: and were continually in the temple, praising and blessing God. Amen.

The writer postulated that they were probably in the temple when the Holy Ghost fell, due to Luke's writing.

Whadda you think?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by ChTatum

Before I go any further, please understand this is for the sake of discussion, and I am not endorsing this as doctrine.

In studying yesterday, I came across a train of thought that stated the 120 probably were not in the upper room when the Holy Ghost fell.

Acts 1:13 "And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and judas the brother of James".

Acts 2:1 states:
"And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place."
No real mention of them still being in the upper room.

Luke 24:52-53
"And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy: and were continually in the temple, praising and blessing God. Amen.

The writer postulated that they were probably in the temple when the Holy Ghost fell, due to Luke's writing.

Whadda you think?

Don't stop at verse 13...what were they all DOING in the upper room?
Act 1:14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.
Act 1:15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about a hundred and twenty,)

Act 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

Jesus told them to WAIT there for this event to happen. From what this says I think that is what they did, in the same place, in the same mind in prayer...not moving around from area to area...why would they?

[Sam]

My former pastor, F.E. Curts (Ohio Dist. Supt.), taught that the upper room was where some lived and gathered but they were in the Temple praising and blessing God when the Holy Spirit was poured out on Pentecost.
This was based on
1-- Luke 24:53
2-- a crowd gathered around them and heard them speaking with tongues Acts 2:5-13, this could not have happened in a room like the upper room
3-- They continued to gather in the Temple after Pentecost
Acts 2:46 they continued in the Temple
Acts 3:1 Peter and John were headed for the Temple at the hour of prayer
Acts 5:12 they gathered in the Solomon's porch area of the temple

This does not agree with our songbooks which contain songs about "the upper room" and with our churches that are named "upper room" and our ministries that use "upper room" in them.

Some believe that there may have been gathering places in the temple which were "upper rooms." I don't know that much about how the temple was laid out but that would allow us to say it happened in "the upper room" and we could also say it happened in "the temple."